Keyblade Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Crazy that we've lost every single cup game under him so far (excluding qualifiers). Yet in the league we're bossing a 2ppg average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Owners must have told him to go all in the league. There is no way he'd intentionally throw these games with these absurd lineups if not. I’ve not read all of the posts in the last half hour, but sorry, what?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Mark Albrighton said: Who said anything about winning the league? We might qualify for the Europa through the league. We qualify for the europa, we have more money, we attract better players, we then have a better squad which then give us a better chance of winning a cup. No - we must only think in extremes. That's the modern way. We try to win the league or we try to win the cups. There is nothing in between, no sense of balance to be achieved, no criticality to the decision-making process (such as starting an internationally experienced and predominantly first-choice team at home to a poor side in a third round League Cup game...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 Just now, Mantis said: Yes but those results haven't been due to the manager not taking them seriously - they've been mainly down individual errors and poor performances. Of course you could argue tactics play a part in that too but these are not clearly not games that have been tactically sacrificed in order to help the league campaign. he played mcginn at LB tonight. he admitted making tactical error vs legia. it seems he uses cup games as a chance to experiment rather than trying to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 The experiments have been shit. There’s no denying that. We still lack depth. Certain players should absolutely be moved on, as we cannot rely on them in prem games. What’s the point in playing a player where the odds of a mistake are high? Lots to think about really, I’m so confused by how we are playing at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, tomav84 said: he played mcginn at LB tonight. he admitted making tactical error vs legia. it seems he uses cup games as a chance to experiment rather than trying to win I suspect he played McGinn at LB because we have only one fit LB who has played tons lately (Digne) and tactical errors do not support your argument at all, unless you think the only tactical errors Emery makes are intentional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Mantis said: I suspect he played McGinn at LB because we have only one fit LB who has played tons lately (Digne) and tactical errors do not support your argument at all, unless you think the only tactical errors Emery makes are intentional? pau has played LB so i'd have said he's our back up LB, so mcginn being there said experiment to me...also can't remember dendonker playing CB for us before (i know he did at wolves) anyway i'm not desperate to justify my opinion, i'm standing by it. olsen in goal will always say "i don't give a shit about this competition" to me (not that he was the problem) but it's always a sign of a manager seeing it as very low priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, tomav84 said: pau has played LB so i'd have said he's our back up LB, so mcginn being there said experiment to me...also can't remember dendonker playing CB for us before (i know he did at wolves) anyway i'm not desperate to justify my opinion, i'm standing by it. olsen in goal will always say "i don't give a shit about this competition" to me (not that he was the problem) but it's always a sign of a manager seeing it as very low priority I agree, I think he’s sacked this one off from the start but has learned a lot from it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Zero7 said: I agree, I think he’s sacked this one off from the start but has learned a lot from it He certainly wasn’t choking the air like he did during the Warsaw game. Don Unai giving the Holte Suite a bad name during his first game. Always looking out for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Mantis said: None of that means he didn't take it seriously though. Not taking it seriously would be doing stuff like starting Kellyman over Diaby (which personally I actually would've been fine with). that would've been far less ridiculous than starting olsen. and i'm not picking on him, but there's a noticable change in mindset when he's on the pitch and it cannot be a coincidence. the otherwise composed defence looked so nervous tonight as they have done whenever he's played. whenever i see olsen starting, i will always think that it's a de-prioritised competition and my mind's made up on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Off to bed, in Unai I trust, UTV and bring on Brighton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2023 In it for the long haul. Always said there would be ups and downs. Have my own concerns but in absolutely no way doubting the overall project. We are simply going to need better depth to play the way we are determined to play. As well as us getting our better players back from injury of course. He knows the squad better than all of us, as well as what the priorities are, so as frustrating as it is to some fans... Carabao Cup etc ain't it. If we finish in Europa League placing and get to the final of the Conference ( Hopefully winning it ) I highly doubt people first thoughts will be about to Carabao Cup or our first game against Legia Warsaw. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 The question for me is, when does he stop giving chances? And I suspect if we get into a crunch game for Conference League is where we will get an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted September 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2023 The team Emery picked tonight was more than good enough to have beaten Everton. Six of those who started tonight will start on Saturday, nine of those who started the 2nd half will start on Saturday. It wasn't selection that cost us that game, it was players under performing all over the pitch until the last 20 odd minutes. Why that was the case I don't know. Perhaps, as seemed the case against Legia Warsaw, we went into the game almost expecting to win and perhaps the fact we had won 10 on the bounce at home contributed to that. I do think some of us need to take the injuries we also have into account. Moreno, Ramsey, Mings, Buendia are all starters in our best 11 and they have played about 40 mins this season between them. Those players being out, and Carlos, with the heavy amount of fixtures we have had, including players being away on international duty, has put more of a burden on the rest of the squad and I think it has shown at times. It is what it is though and whilst I am disappointed to lose tonight overall Emery has presided over a decent start to the season and perhaps we'll look back on tonight as a blessing in disguise in the grand scheme of things. Roll on Saturday. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted September 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DJBOB said: The question for me is, when does he stop giving chances? And I suspect if we get into a crunch game for Conference League is where we will get an answer. I kinda think pretty much all the conference games now will be considered crunch games. Maybe if had it sewn up by game 4/5 we might have gone easy. Perhaps one or two rotations at most going forwards. In the immediate future, I reckon it will basically be a full strength team next week against Zrinjski, get us up and running, with the thought being the same players can then do a job at Wolves on the Sunday. Edited September 27, 2023 by Mark Albrighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DJBOB said: The question for me is, when does he stop giving chances? And I suspect if we get into a crunch game for Conference League is where we will get an answer. When we buy better ones and/or ours return from injury. I would have rested Konsa tonight, but we kinda couldn't even do that, Edited September 27, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Gaffa Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Injuries to a couple of key players have made it difficult for Unai. He is also being let down by poor performances from players who are being given games. Unai is a hard task master and he won't want those players to remain at the club if there performances don't match his standards. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Im not worried at all. We are 2 months into the season and we have had struggles. Rather have teething problems now than start well and fade away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 A few on social media " turning " on him... mind-blowing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 38 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: A few on social media " turning " on him... mind-blowing. Best avoid social media after a defeat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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