The Fun Factory Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 55 minutes ago, Tubby said: They acted fast indeed If I was him I would prefer getting paid in Euros at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, duke313 said: The Arsenal goal stats are inflated slightly, they relied heavily on goals from Auba. Probably because he built the attack around a world class finisher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 49 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Interesting Good stats imo. Doesn't suffer any players not listening to his tactics or not executing. The number of times we could have been saved by an early substitute to mcginn over the last few seasons must be in the dozens. Maybe for an arsenal you want the consistency in formation. But some games we will very much be under the cosh and being able to change from a more aggressive 4-2-3-1 to a more defensive 4-4-2, or 4-3-3/4-5-1 is a boon if anything. And of course just fitting the system to the players you wish to play is far more beneficial than people like to give credit. And with Chamber, Dendoncker and Kamara being able to fluidly switch between 3 at the back and 3 in midfield is useful as all 3 of them are natural CBs and DMs. When we are defending in a low block you could slip one of them into more of the back line but as we move forward up the pitch they could step out from that back 3 and give us more attacking impetus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Probably because he built the attack around a world class finisher? A player who was arguably a top 5 striker in the world at the time with Lewa, Suarez, Benzema and Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Probably because he built the attack around a world class finisher? Just now, MotoMkali said: A player who was arguably a top 5 striker in the world at the time with Lewa, Suarez, Benzema and Kane Exactly, we don't have one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 42 minutes ago, duke313 said: The Arsenal goal stats are inflated slightly, they relied heavily on goals from Auba. We don't have a striker that could currently hit 20+ (Ings has one season with Southampton, but can he re-find that form?) Release the Archer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Just now, duke313 said: Exactly, we don't have one of them. Maybe that will be addressed in Jan? Emery is going to get some budget to spend, could see a couple off loaded? But the main work will be done in the summer. We dont need a full rebuild this time at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Teale's 'tache Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 I thought Emery was a little out of our reach with the position we are in, and his reputation could of got him any number of Champions League jobs, so bravo to those that have sold him the vision. This appointment is mind blowing, this guy is a master tactician, his record is ridiculous, what he's managed to achieve at Villarreal with their budget is just phenomenal, and it's not like he's just excelled at one club, it's pretty much every club, and in different countries, big and small. You can see in the way he interviews that he is utterly obsessed with football, finding solutions, exploring each end every situation to get the maximum out of it. There's no big ego getting in the way, just an endless and relentless desire to improve every minute detail. This is a proper, world class manager, have no doubts. However, I'm not going to expect miracles straight away, it's going to take the players a little while to get used to his methods, and for some of the ideas to be communicated effectively, but when they do we are going to be one extremely tactically flexible team. I can't wait to see what he can do with this squad of players, let alone with further investment. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, duke313 said: Exactly, we don't have one of them. And? The fact he built a system that let his best player thrive and be the most productive striker in the prem is clearly a good thing. I don't know how anyone can say that it is a negative. Gerrard Moreno added like 9 Goals and Assists in his first season with Villa Real compared to the season before. Edit: Just some stats. In Emerys season with Arsenal Auba got 30 goals and 7 assists in about 3670 Prem and Europa league minutes. So a goal contribution every 99 minutes. The following season under arteta 25 and 3 assists in 3550 minutes. One every 127 minutes. And that's with a longer run in Europe meaning he played stronger teams as a larger proportion of his minutes. Edited October 25, 2022 by MotoMkali 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, duke313 said: Exactly, we don't have one of them. But my point is, he'll build the attack on the strengths of the team. When you have a world class striker, you'll build around them, when you don't, you'll set up in a different way to be most effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, MotoMkali said: And? The fact he built a system that let his best player thrive and be the most productive striker in the prem is clearly a good thing. I don't know how anyone can say that it is a negative. Gerrard Moreno added like 9 Goals and Assists in his first season with Villa Real compared to the season before. And what? I'm just pointing out the fact that Arsenal's excellent goal scoring record under Emery was in part due their phenomenal striker (and also Lacazette) There wasn't many goals in the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted October 25, 2022 Visiting Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2022 Well Done !! A great appointment in my opinion. He is a proven top notch manager !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 One of the most successful European managers and The Telegraph call him “Arsenal failure”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, duke313 said: And what? I'm just pointing out the fact that Arsenal's excellent goal scoring record under Emery was in part due their phenomenal striker (and also Lacazette) There wasn't many goals in the rest of the team. I mean auba only scored 22 league goals. 47 Goals in 38 games excluding your main focal point is pretty Damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, The_Steve said: One of the most successful European managers and The Telegraph call him “Arsenal failure”. The article is extremely positive though, unlike the headline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: I mean auba only scored 22 league goals. 47 Goals in 38 games excluding your main focal point is pretty Damn good. Only? He was joint top scorer with Mane and Salah. Of those 47 goals 13 were from Lacazette. Remove Auba/Lacazette goals and Arsenal scored 34 goals in 38 games. Somehow, I don't see Watkins and Ings scoring 35 goals in the league between them. So hopefully we can invest in a better striker at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 41 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: If I was him I would prefer getting paid in Euros at the moment. Really? US Dollars surely right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Folski Posted October 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, duke313 said: Only? He was joint top scorer with Mane and Salah. Of those 47 goals 13 were from Lacazette. Remove Auba/Lacazette goals and Arsenal scored 34 goals in 38 games. Somehow, I don't see Watkins and Ings scoring 35 goals in the league between them. So hopefully we can invest in a better striker at some point. Adjusting for games where Gerrard wasn't our manager they are on course for 83 goals combined this season. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, duke313 said: Only? He was joint top scorer with Mane and Salah. Of those 47 goals 13 were from Lacazette. Remove Auba/Lacazette goals and Arsenal scored 34 goals in 38 games. Somehow, I don't see Watkins and Ings scoring 35 goals in the league between them. So hopefully we can invest in a better striker at some point. Lol. These arguments are so ridiculous. Who cares who scored however many goals? They were scored within the system Emery set up. Should we take away credit from Pep for what Haaland will end up scoring this season? Also, if it makes you feel any better, his Villarreal reached the semi-final of the champions league with their top goal-scorer only reaching 16 last year in all competitions. Same amount Ollie scored in his first season with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, duke313 said: Only? He was joint top scorer with Mane and Salah. Of those 47 goals 13 were from Lacazette. Remove Auba/Lacazette goals and Arsenal scored 34 goals in 38 games. Somehow, I don't see Watkins and Ings scoring 35 goals in the league between them. So hopefully we can invest in a better striker at some point. What are you talking about? When you have 2 players as good as Lacazette and Auba you try to get them every shot which is why arsenal were like bottom 5 in shots per game under Emery but had a really short average shot distance and really high xG because they were doing their best to create really good shots for their 2 best players. And have you looked at that arsenal team who else was going to score goals? Ozil went on a strike, Mkhitaryen was a good player but was kind of done by the time he moved to arse. Then you sre talking about Xhaka, Iwobi and Aaron Ramsey. Douglas Luiz is a better goal threat directly from corners than any of those arsenal players were overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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