skarroki Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Feel like the venn diagram of people saying we need Premier League experience and people who were hounding out anyone suggesting going for Potter a few months back would have significant cross-over. I also imagine they'd be against Frank. The way some people's minds work is interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, skarroki said: Feel like the venn diagram of people saying we need Premier League experience and people who were hounding out anyone suggesting going for Potter a few months back would have significant cross-over. I also imagine they'd be against Frank. The way some people's minds work is interesting. Thing is, people's minds are mostly focused on deceiving them into thinking they aren't making decisions based on their emotions, when in fact they are doing just that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 It's impossible when bringing in a new manager. There is no sure-fire recipe for success. The best managers don't want to come here. Successful managers in the Prem in the past would not be deemed suitable. (Pardew, Dyche, Bruce, Martinez, Rodgers). Unsuccessful managers would be deemed good (Silva, Emery, Parker). Some experienced foreign coaches are looked at with scepticism Some managers with experience abroad are deemed good (Gallardo, Amorim, Knutsen) I just think at the end of the day, like any job, you need to bring in someone who will do a good job in the role but they also need to fit in well with all the current staff they'll be working with if you want it to go well. Hopefully the recruitment has been good enough to bring in players of a good character and of a character that is cohesive, and the manager needs to not jar that in any way I think. Sure fire successes (or as close as you'd get) like Tuchel and Pochettino are way above us so it's a throw a busload of money and the kitchen sink at them or someone similar. OR accept the risk and choose someone the mitigates as much of it as possible. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KMitch Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 45 minutes ago, skarroki said: It's impossible when bringing in a new manager. There is no sure-fire recipe for success. The best managers don't want to come here. Successful managers in the Prem in the past would not be deemed suitable. (Pardew, Dyche, Bruce, Martinez, Rodgers). Unsuccessful managers would be deemed good (Silva, Emery, Parker). Some experienced foreign coaches are looked at with scepticism Some managers with experience abroad are deemed good (Gallardo, Amorim, Knutsen) I just think at the end of the day, like any job, you need to bring in someone who will do a good job in the role but they also need to fit in well with all the current staff they'll be working with if you want it to go well. Hopefully the recruitment has been good enough to bring in players of a good character and of a character that is cohesive, and the manager needs to not jar that in any way I think. Sure fire successes (or as close as you'd get) like Tuchel and Pochettino are way above us so it's a throw a busload of money and the kitchen sink at them or someone similar. OR accept the risk and choose someone the mitigates as much of it as possible. Calling Emery unsuccessful and lumping him in with Championship level managers like Silva and Parker is criminal... The guy has won every trophy in France, 4 Europa League titles and even took Arsenal to an Europa League final in his only season there. He's bound to be a sure fire success, given time and a solid budget. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted October 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2022 Emery * * If Danks keeps winning, Danks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaHatesMe Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Aaron Danks. Lifetime appointment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Danks should have absolutely no impact on the timeline for appointing a new man. Even if he wins every game in the interim, he is not our man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Sam3773 said: I have a suspicion it’ll end up being Pochettino. Not sure why. Mentioned from the start and faded to a whimper with only one or two mumbling as he might not be interested. It’s all very quiet. Suspiciously quiet. I would not be surprised to see him holding up the Villa shirt come the end of this. I think your in for disappointment if you think poch is coming. He is qiatibg for spurs job i think Thats a tougher job than ours so if he thinks thats for him then leave him to it. Conte is a better manager than poch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 6 hours ago, skarroki said: It's impossible when bringing in a new manager. There is no sure-fire recipe for success. The best managers don't want to come here. Successful managers in the Prem in the past would not be deemed suitable. (Pardew, Dyche, Bruce, Martinez, Rodgers). Unsuccessful managers would be deemed good (Silva, Emery, Parker). Some experienced foreign coaches are looked at with scepticism Some managers with experience abroad are deemed good (Gallardo, Amorim, Knutsen) I just think at the end of the day, like any job, you need to bring in someone who will do a good job in the role but they also need to fit in well with all the current staff they'll be working with if you want it to go well. Hopefully the recruitment has been good enough to bring in players of a good character and of a character that is cohesive, and the manager needs to not jar that in any way I think. Sure fire successes (or as close as you'd get) like Tuchel and Pochettino are way above us so it's a throw a busload of money and the kitchen sink at them or someone similar. OR accept the risk and choose someone the mitigates as much of it as possible. Emery unsuccessful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, Demitri_C said: I think your in for disappointment if you think poch is coming. He is qiatibg for spurs job i think Thats a tougher job than ours so if he thinks thats for him then leave him to it. Conte is a better manager than poch Why is he waiting for a job that treated him poorly last time? It doesnt make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: Why is he waiting for a job that treated him poorly last time? It doesnt make sense I agree. But i think he will go back there. They spoke to him before conte became available and i believe psg wouldnt release him at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I think your in for disappointment if you think poch is coming. He is qiatibg for spurs job i think Thats a tougher job than ours so if he thinks thats for him then leave him to it. Conte is a better manager than poch I don’t think he’ll be waiting that long for the Spurs job either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 So we have definitely approached Poch (Telegraph) and possibly looking at Amorim (All other sources) Jim says its done and to be announced on Tuesday. Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 If it’s supposedly a done deal, why are we waiting so long to announce? Surely that means manager is in another job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 At the post-match presser yesterday Thomas Frank was apparently careful not to rule himself out of the Villa job. That's a bit worrying if you ask me, there are better candidates imo. "The Brentford head coach, one of several names believed to be under consideration by the Villa board after Steven Gerrard’s dismissal on Thursday, repeated he is happy in west London but chose his words carefully." https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/oct/23/thomas-frank-stops-short-of-ruling-himself-out-of-aston-villa-vacancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, duke313 said: If it’s supposedly a done deal, why are we waiting so long to announce? Surely that means manager is in another job? Probably managers team is playing midweek Interesting Amorim price has gone down to 10 million according reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Probably managers team is playing midweek Interesting Amorim price has gone down to 10 million according reports If it was Poch, it could just have been announced yesterday. The fact they’re waiting tells me he’s in another job. So from the list of top candidates it’s possibly Amorim or Emery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: At the post-match presser yesterday Thomas Frank was apparently careful not to rule himself out of the Villa job. That's a bit worrying if you ask me, there are better candidates imo. "The Brentford head coach, one of several names believed to be under consideration by the Villa board after Steven Gerrard’s dismissal on Thursday, repeated he is happy in west London but chose his words carefully." https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/oct/23/thomas-frank-stops-short-of-ruling-himself-out-of-aston-villa-vacancy Honestly, a mole out of a molehill. I don't think the quote is him 'chose his words carefully' in order to not rule himself out. It's just him being media trained and saying what most people say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Frank is negotiating a new contract according to various journos he's effectively ruled himself out whilst keeping that favourable to him element of doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 8 hours ago, TheStagMan said: I too hope that our new mamagee bounces. Leave Stevie's mum out of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts