Stevo985 Posted August 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2022 17 hours ago, Jimzk5 said: I absolutely despise him. He adds absolutely nothing, those **** catch phrases... Its lights out and away we go, the old switcheroo And stop shouting you prat, you are not, and never will be Murray walker, and stop refering to yourself as crofty You should try watching the Channel 4 coverage a few times. it'll warm you to Crofty, believe me. Channel 4 are **** shit. I watched the highlights of yesterday's race on Channel 4 and there were at least 3 occassions where they were just silent, and eventually Coulthard said "Speechless, don't know what to say" YOU'RE COMMENTATORS! It's your job to know what to say! They're really shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2022 Anyway as for the race, brilliant drive from Max. He's a clear step up from anyone else on the grid at the moment. Good to see the mercs coming back. They're still clearly behind the Red Bulls but they're getting there. Ferrari are an absolute joke. I'm struggling to believe how bad they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Alonso to Aston Martin. Where did that come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2022 9 hours ago, mykeyb said: Missed the race as was traveling but even the haters have got to admit that when it comes to strategy Mr Horner and his team get it right more often than most. Nobody has ever doubted Red Bull's strategy or speed or their drivers' ability to be honest. They're clearly the best team this season and have been one of the best teams for years. The only issue people tend to have is their number 1 driver is a word removed and their Team Principal is an even bigger word removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2022 13 hours ago, a m ole said: Max and Lewis laughing about Ferrari picking the hards was a sweet bonding moment. Ferrari so bad they’re repairing relationships I reckon if Lewis, or Max for that matter, were in a ferrari they'd be winning the championship, or at least be in the conversation, even with Ferrari's bizarre strategy calls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I reckon if Lewis, or Max for that matter, were in a ferrari they'd be winning the championship, or at least be in the conversation, even with Ferrari's bizarre strategy calls No amount of good driving could overcome calls like going on to the hards yesterday. Leclerc even specifically requested mediums and they ignored him. They are literally the laughing stock of the paddock. Alonso at Ferrari was as good as Max and Hamilton are now and they had a competitive car but all he's got to show for his time there is the thousand yard stare meme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, YouUnastanFren said: No amount of good driving could overcome calls like going on to the hards yesterday. Leclerc even specifically requested mediums and they ignored him. They are literally the laughing stock of the paddock. Alonso at Ferrari was as good as Max and Hamilton are now and they had a competitive car but all he's got to show for his time there is the thousand yard stare meme. Yeah I know that, but LeClerc has still bottled several good positions and thrown points away. I think Max or Lewis could do a lot more with that car than Sainz or LeClerc are doing. Obviously we'll never know. But as bad as Ferrari are I don't think Le Clerc is totally innocent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 42 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah I know that, but LeClerc has still bottled several good positions and thrown points away. I think Max or Lewis could do a lot more with that car than Sainz or LeClerc are doing. Obviously we'll never know. But as bad as Ferrari are I don't think Le Clerc is totally innocent Leclerc has dropped a few points but he's clearly in the elite group with those two imo. I'm not even sure a lot of the points he's dropped are on him. For example the spin last week was very similar to the spins the Mercs both had in quali in Austria and the spin Verstappen had this weekend. I think the current generation of cars are vulnerable to sudden snap oversteer when the ground effect gets compromised. Meanwhile Ferrari have **** up race after race, even a race he won he had to do 10 laps with the accelerator sticking down. Leclerc hammered Vettel and is hammering Sainz, he's probably the best qualifier on the grid and is very good at overtaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpet Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, YouUnastanFren said: Leclerc has dropped a few points but he's clearly in the elite group with those two imo. I'm not even sure a lot of the points he's dropped are on him. For example the spin last week was very similar to the spins the Mercs both had in quali in Austria and the spin Verstappen had this weekend. I think the current generation of cars are vulnerable to sudden snap oversteer when the ground effect gets compromised. Meanwhile Ferrari have **** up race after race, even a race he won he had to do 10 laps with the accelerator sticking down. Leclerc hammered Vettel and is hammering Sainz, he's probably the best qualifier on the grid and is very good at overtaking. IMO Leclerc is just in the band below Lewis and Max, but above Russel, Norris currently. Be interesting to see what people driving lists would be mine currently would be Max Lewis -------------- Leclerc -------------- Norris Alonso Russell -------------- Gasly Ocon Perez Vettel Riccardo Bottas ------------ KMag Yuki Zhou ----------- Mick ---------- Albon ------------ Latifi ------------ Stroll (would be further down if possible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: Alonso to Aston Martin. Where did that come from? F1 in August always throws out a surprise or two with regards to the driver's market. He was touted as a replacement for Vettel when his retirement was announced. His contract is up at the end of this season with Alpine and they hadn't agreed a new one yet. Not a massive surprise that he has gone. It is a bit surprising that he has gone to a team who seem to be struggling as opposed to Alpine who are doing quite well this year. Good news out of this though. Piastri likely gets a chance in a competitive car to show his stuff. Potentially fantastic news. Latifi stays with Williams to ensure the possibility of a random safety car at all times during all races. Edited August 1, 2022 by sparrow1988 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Crumpet said: IMO Leclerc is just in the band below Lewis and Max, but above Russel, Norris currently. Be interesting to see what people driving lists would be mine currently would be Max Lewis -------------- Leclerc -------------- Norris Alonso Russell -------------- Gasly Ocon Perez Vettel Riccardo Bottas ------------ KMag Yuki Zhou ----------- Mick ---------- Albon ------------ Latifi ------------ Stroll (would be further down if possible) Latifi is worse than Stroll by a distance imo. Max Lewis Leclerc -------------- Norris Alonso Russell -------------- Gasly Ocon Perez Vettel Bottas Albon ------------ Ricciardo ----------- KMag Yuki Zhou Mick ------------ Stroll ----------- Latifi ------------ Unthinkable that Ricciardo would be that low just a few seasons ago but here we are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpet Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I think i've maybe let my dislike of Stroll show a bit. Just really don't rate him, and the spoilt kid vibes he gives off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Good news out of this though. Piastri likely gets a chance in a competitive car to show his stuff. Potentially fantastic news. Latifi stays with Williams to ensure the possibility of a random safety car at all times during all races. Good that Piastri finally gets a seat but I think Williams might ditch Latifi for someone who is good (probably Sergeant) and make the most of the fact that they are actually in touching distance of the midfield in some races. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, YouUnastanFren said: Good that Piastri finally gets a seat but I think Williams might ditch Latifi for someone who is good (probably Sergeant) and make the most of the fact that they are actually in touching distance of the midfield in some races. Yeah, I think that Latifi is gone too if I'm honest. And let's face it he's just not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Yeah, I think that Latifi is gone too if I'm honest. And let's face it he's just not good enough. And they don't need his money anymore really after the buyout. Could be only Stroll left as a proper pay driver next season. I know Zhou has some kind of backing but it's not his family it's because he's genuinely quick. I was skeptical of him but he's proved me wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, YouUnastanFren said: Leclerc has dropped a few points but he's clearly in the elite group with those two imo. I'm not even sure a lot of the points he's dropped are on him. For example the spin last week was very similar to the spins the Mercs both had in quali in Austria and the spin Verstappen had this weekend. I think the current generation of cars are vulnerable to sudden snap oversteer when the ground effect gets compromised. Meanwhile Ferrari have **** up race after race, even a race he won he had to do 10 laps with the accelerator sticking down. Leclerc hammered Vettel and is hammering Sainz, he's probably the best qualifier on the grid and is very good at overtaking. I think LeClerc is a clear tier below Max and Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2022 Secretly hoping Porche's stake in Red Bull means they want a new driver and give Lando a go in a competitive car. I know it won't happen, if they did that they'd almost certainly want a german driver. but I can dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2022 55 minutes ago, Crumpet said: IMO Leclerc is just in the band below Lewis and Max, but above Russel, Norris currently. Be interesting to see what people driving lists would be mine currently would be Max Lewis -------------- Leclerc -------------- Norris Alonso Russell -------------- Gasly Ocon Perez Vettel Riccardo Bottas ------------ KMag Yuki Zhou ----------- Mick ---------- Albon ------------ Latifi ------------ Stroll (would be further down if possible) Hard to disagree with this imo, except i'd include Sainz in the Ocon /perez group 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Stroll isn't a bad driver, just inconsistent, certainly not the worst F1 pay driver (I'm looking at you, max Chilton) I'm surprised latifi has lasted so long, he must be paying a heck of a load of money to keep that seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Hard to disagree with this imo, except i'd include Sainz in the Ocon /perez group I didn't even notice Sainz was missing. Mr consistent has sort of become Mr forgettable. Maybe a tad harsh to put him below Norris when they were perfectly evenly matched for multiple seasons in a row. Edited August 1, 2022 by YouUnastanFren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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