dubbs Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 PlayStation 5 exclusive from Housemarque, who've previously made Resogun and Super Stardust HD. First things first - this is a tough game! Everytime you die you go back to the start - your caught in a death loop. And each time you die the world changes a bit. The controls are intuitive and make fantastic use of the Dualsense controller. Oh and you need to play this with headphones on. The use of the 3D audio system is up there with Hunt Showdown. Graphically its made in a typical Housemarque manner - vibrant colours, very neon, and it looks great. The death loop will put some off but I don't see it as a reason not to get it. Each time you die you find me areas which were previously inaccessible. Yes the price is a bit steep but that seems to be the way the market is going globally at the moment. Would of been nice to have a demo because I think that would have helped a lot of people decide whether its for them or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted May 1, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 1, 2021 I watched a gameplay video and it put me off tbh. It just looked really, really generic and uninspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I am loving Returnal, the gameplay loop is great fun and the challenge is brutal which is right where I want it. I think the main thing that will put people off is there are no manual saves. This means if you're 3-4 hours into a run you either have to press on, or put all your faith into rest mode. The latter is a risk because power cuts and firmware updates will cause the game to close which will send you right back to the start of the game. I personally don't mind a lack of saves, I am very used to the permanence that comes with Roguelike games, but for £70 I think a lot of people will expect there to be saves. If you like really hard games and don't mind the lack of manual saves then you'll probably love Returnal. This game is going to be a ton of fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Agree about the demo part, said in the what you playing thread they've strangely died off but this is crying out for one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Interesting - a bullet hell 3rd person rouguelite! Looks right up my alley but alas, I don't have a PS5. I will probably pick up when I do get around to purchasing one - it gives me Risk of Rain 2 vibes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 The only down side I've come across so far is that you cannot save your progress! The only way is to put your console in rest mode so you can pick up where you left off. Whilst it's not a problem for me as I'm still in the early stages I can see it being a pain later on. From what I've read, Housemarque are working on patching in a save system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, dubbs said: The only down side I've come across so far is that you cannot save your progress! The only way is to put your console in rest mode so you can pick up where you left off. Whilst it's not a problem for me as I'm still in the early stages I can see it being a pain later on. From what I've read, Housemarque are working on patching in a save system. They have said "we're listening", but haven't confirmed they'll be working on it. Quote We hear the community and we love you all. Nothing to announce now, but keep playing and enjoying the challenge as you can! #Returnal #PS5 Tweet (the tweet wasn't embedding so I did the next best thing) I think in the end they'll copy the Binding of Isaac format where a save is created when you quit out, but that save is deleted after you load back in. Part of me wonders if PS5 was meant to ship with a Series X style Quick Resume, but it just didn't happen. My initial thought was if PS5 had Quick Resume then this wouldn't be a problem at all. Series X can save the state of up to 11 games at once (depending on game size) and that state is saved even when the console is off. PS5 is last-gen in that regard, it can quick resume one game from rest mode, but if there is a firmware update, a power cut, or the console crashes on start up then that state is not saved anywhere, it just assumes you quit out of the game. I am in the same boat as you though. I don't mind the lack of saves and I'm perfectly happy to put my faith in rest mode, but I am curious how progressing further will test my faith. I don't know how I'll feel if rest mode fails me and a great run is lost, I hope I never have to find out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 2, 2021 I'm up for playing this but there's no way in hell I'm paying £70 for it. None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I don’t leave my ps5 in test mode unless I’m downloading or changing the controller. So lack of save function means a no no from me at the moment. I haven’t got time to sink 4 hours a time into a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Dante_Lockhart said: I don’t leave my ps5 in test mode unless I’m downloading or changing the controller. So lack of save function means a no no from me at the moment. I haven’t got time to sink 4 hours a time into a game I think Housemarque are hearing this more and more so I'd expect some kind of save system to be implemented in a future update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 How do you release a game that doesn't have an option to save your progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 3, 2021 It's a run based roguelite game. That type of game tends not to have saves, your progress is more in unlocking upgrades - abilities for he character, new 'boost' items that might turn up in a run. It also has some progress saving - beat a boss and you don't need to do that again, you can skip them. The game isn't like sitting down and being told 'beat God of War in one sitting'. It's more of an arcade game. It's basically an evolution of the twin stick shooter with some story structure - but even the story appears to have been built around the understanding that you will be going again and again before making many steps forward through it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 I was on the verge of trading this. Its ridiculously hard in the 1st biome but finally did it. What a feeling! Its like Bloodborne all over again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 I've just lost EVERYTHING progress wise on this game. Back up on console and cloud are reset. This is total sh#t so I'm getting rid of it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 50 minutes ago, dubbs said: This is total sh#t so I'm getting rid of it tomorrow. Appropriate game title is... well, appropriate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 Its a pity really cuz it is a good game but I can't replay it just to get back to where I was. Apparently its happened to a few people since launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I think I'd rather play on the fast lane of the M6 than this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Did they patch in a save mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2022 Iirc they patched in a way of saving a run midway through, but it's not REALLY a save. It allows you to quit the game mid run and come back to it, but when you do the save is deleted. So essentially it's just a pause that is maintained when the game is closed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Looking forward to giving it a go anyway. Going to be weird playing a game and not trying not to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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