Jareth Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 France are backing the ICC - I mean it shouldn't even need countries signed up to it to declare they back it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Does this mean Netanyahu gets arrested as soon as he leaves the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Just now, Genie said: Does this mean Netanyahu gets arrested as soon as he leaves the country? He'll be ok in Russia and in the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 21 VT Supporter Share Posted May 21 5 minutes ago, Genie said: Does this mean Netanyahu gets arrested as soon as he leaves the country? Theoretically, if the ICC agrees to support the prosecution and arrest warrant, he would be at risk of arrest in any jurisdiction that has signed up to the ICC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) Norway's government is expected to announce that it recognizes Palestine as a state today. So is Spain is Slovenia and Malta Edit: Norwegian prime minister says the borders should be based on the pre-1967 Edited May 22 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Also Ireland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theboyangel Posted May 22 Popular Post Share Posted May 22 28 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Also Ireland. Surely Norway already recognised Ireland? 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 22 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22 Well done to Ireland, Norway and Spain - the right thing to do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 The Irish, Norwegians and Spanish are 'rewarding Hamas'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 terrorists gonna terrorise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 24 minutes ago, omariqy said: terrorists gonna terrorise Big words from a guy who a large part of his own nation want's to go to jail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 6 hours ago, Jareth said: The Irish, Norwegians and Spanish are 'rewarding Hamas'. Isn't the official US/Israel position they want a two state solution? Or is that just rhetoric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 45 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: Isn't the official US/Israel position they want a two state solution? Or is that just rhetoric? Israel is 1 state, the US and UK say 2 state - but only when Israel agree. So yep, 1 state in effect too. I think this is why Ireland, Norway and Spain have made this move - they can see the empty rhetoric for what it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 22 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22 Some fun context. We're pissing away any moral authority we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Surely this is a great thing? Why are the peace loving Zionist’s in uproar in the comments? This isn’t Hamas. They want peace no? Weird… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 4 hours ago, omariqy said: Surely this is a great thing? Why are the peace loving Zionist’s in uproar in the comments? This isn’t Hamas. They want peace no? Weird… You'd think! Netanyahu is a crafty bugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 23 Moderator Share Posted May 23 6 hours ago, omariqy said: Surely this is a great thing? Why are the peace loving Zionist’s in uproar in the comments? This isn’t Hamas. They want peace no? Weird… I'm a little bit torn about it. On the one hand, it's clearly right that Palestine be recognised as a nation. But the glitch is that currently the government of Gaza (rather than Palestine overall) is holding hostages, mounted a terrorist attack, is fighting a war with Israel's IDF, and is about an awful a government as you can get, both for the people of Gaza and for any nation. So I could see why there might be some reticence right now to hold off on recognition (though it should have been granted years ago). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 34 minutes ago, blandy said: I'm a little bit torn about it. On the one hand, it's clearly right that Palestine be recognised as a nation. But the glitch is that currently the government of Gaza (rather than Palestine overall) is holding hostages, mounted a terrorist attack, is fighting a war with Israel's IDF, and is about an awful a government as you can get, both for the people of Gaza and for any nation. So I could see why there might be some reticence right now to hold off on recognition (though it should have been granted years ago). But this is addressed to Abbas and their ‘government’. It’s like when people (cough Jonny Gould) got outraged at footballer holding Palestinian flags. These people don’t want Palestine to exist lets be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 23 Moderator Share Posted May 23 56 minutes ago, omariqy said: But this is addressed to Abbas and their ‘government’. It’s like when people (cough Jonny Gould) got outraged at footballer holding Palestinian flags. These people don’t want Palestine to exist lets be honest. You're right, it is. But politics - It's like (media question) "Prime Minister, why, when Hamas is holding women, children, elderly as hostages, raping, killing, murdering, do you feel now is the right time to recognise Palestine as a state?" and (some) politicians will answer "it isn't, I condemn those terrorists for that. Hamas is a designated terrorist organisation and as such, until they are gone from Governing half of Palestine I cannot contemplate recognising Palestine as a nation". You know and I know that for 25 years or so, it should have been done, but wasn't. But that's the situation and some politicians will be very reticent about doing it right now, until the "war" is over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) I’m looking forward to the next non-outrage when the still majority pro Israel-eradication Palestinian (that is pro Hamas in Gaza and WB) people get to say no to yet another peace deal because it isn’t really peace that their leaders want, just like the last 4 times. Put Benny in jail and let’s see what sort of leverage Norway, Ireland and Spain has over the eventual peace process (read: zero). It’s symbolism at its best that just emboldens a people who want bloodshed by their very active support of the Islamic barbarians who contribute to this as much as Israel’s outer-right idiots. How did that Oslo accord work out with Norway’s best bud Arafat, who decided to turn down the peace deal as it would’ve cut his cash cow? Instead of asking Palestinians to sort out their clear beaches of any peace plan, these three countries have paid for the product without seeing it. What’s the incentive for PA to do better if their support just grows in their worst ever year of government when you look at corruption, human rights and the state of life for their people? Edited May 23 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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