Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, blandy said: re the "Also Russia: we don't actually know what our new borders now are" thing. That's quite useful for them. If Ukraine takes more land back, they can pretend "oh, no that bit wasn't where our border was - we're not arsed about that bit". Never thought of that, wriggle room of sorts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, blandy said: re the "Also Russia: we don't actually know what our new borders now are" thing. That's quite useful for them. If Ukraine takes more land back, they can pretend "oh, no that bit wasn't where our border was - we're not arsed about that bit". The general perception in Russia seems to be that the only bit the general public ever really cared about was Crimea. The problem is Crimea can't be sustained without holding Kherson, where the Ukrainians are currently looking dangerous, and Zelensky understandably wants it back. Putin has really tied himself in knots here. I don't think any "off ramp" exists besides Putin being ousted / assassinated, unless he can somehow find a way of surviving total defeat in Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 3, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2022 If you want to spot contradictions, you'll be doing well to find more anywhere. There's a special amount of foolishness being talked here. Especially funny is the idea that Russia was occupied by the West in the 1990s and it just gets wilder from there. Apparently others are copying this line The whole of Ukraine is with them but beating them on the battlefield... It really is an absolute masterclass in talking bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, bickster said: If you want to spot contradictions, you'll be doing well to find more anywhere. There's a special amount of foolishness being talked here. Especially funny is the idea that Russia was occupied by the West in the 1990s and it just gets wilder from there. Apparently others are copying this line The whole of Ukraine is with them but beating them on the battlefield... It really is an absolute masterclass in talking bollocks I used to think this was just lying for the sake of propaganda or that it was brainwashing. I'm leaning towards retarded of late. A good portion of the Russian population must be retarded. It's the only reasonable explanation for the bullshit being spouted and expectancy of the masses to believe it. "Say anything you want because the plebs won't understand the lie". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 3, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2022 So 1.5 million Russian military uniforms have "gone missing." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, bickster said: So 1.5 million Russian military uniforms have "gone missing." I bet Nicolas Cage is responsible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 3, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2022 I suspect they were indeed Shroedinger's Uniforms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 3, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2022 Oh there's a video out there of one Russian soldier kindly administering oral relief to a fellow soldier when a drone drops a bomb on them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, bickster said: Oh there's a video out there of one Russian soldier kindly administering oral relief to a fellow soldier when a drone drops a bomb on them Pulling a tooth by any chance??!!! Dentists must be hard to cum by in the field...... soz lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 40 minutes ago, bickster said: If you want to spot contradictions, you'll be doing well to find more anywhere. There's a special amount of foolishness being talked here. Especially funny is the idea that Russia was occupied by the West in the 1990s and it just gets wilder from there. Apparently others are copying this line The whole of Ukraine is with them but beating them on the battlefield... It really is an absolute masterclass in talking bollocks I can't help but interpret that as preparing the Russian population for a military retreat to the 2014 borders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, bickster said: There's a special amount of foolishness being talked here. If their brains are not close to the human equivalent of a DIV/0 error or just melting I would be astonished. Some things are hard coded fighting against a input of reality. "Russia will never be defeated, but mate., is still there always fighting with Putin's rubbish and their own, "nuke everyone, we don't need to becasue mnnnnggggggg re-group", they have no self awareness either. I feel a bit bad, its easy to take the mick becasue they are of no value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, blandy said: re the "Also Russia: we don't actually know what our new borders now are" thing. That's quite useful for them. If Ukraine takes more land back, they can pretend "oh, no that bit wasn't where our border was - we're not arsed about that bit". Yes, they can do that all the way back to Russia.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 What are the grill things on the side ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 There’s a great reply from a Ukrainian diplomat that sadly won’t make it past the swearing rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, magnkarl said: 1 hour ago, blandy said: re the "Also Russia: we don't actually know what our new borders now are" thing. That's quite useful for them. If Ukraine takes more land back, they can pretend "oh, no that bit wasn't where our border was - we're not arsed about that bit". Yes, they can do that all the way back to Russia.. At this point, I actually think I could sell Russia a time-share holiday opportunity of its own land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, KentVillan said: There’s a great reply from a Ukrainian diplomat that sadly won’t make it past the swearing rules. So Britain gets the USA back if we are going to use rewind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 56 minutes ago, bickster said: If you want to spot contradictions, you'll be doing well to find more anywhere. There's a special amount of foolishness being talked here. Especially funny is the idea that Russia was occupied by the West in the 1990s and it just gets wilder from there. Apparently others are copying this line The whole of Ukraine is with them but beating them on the battlefield... It really is an absolute masterclass in talking bollocks It’s tragically incredible, just rewriting history to fit a narrative then saying journalism needs to be restructured and censored, so that the people cannot access information to contradict the shit they’re coming out with. Indoctrinated or not, surely the average Russian person sees through this bollocks? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 39 minutes ago, bickster said: So 1.5 million Russian military uniforms have "gone missing." They have paperwork saying they paid for them, and they were delivered, but nobody has ever seen them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: So Britain gets the USA back if we are going to use rewind Russia gets Alaska back too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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