Russia and its “Special Operation” in Ukraine

[chrisp65]

Without wishing to sound excited or entertained by war, I really hope that Putin gets an indisputable embarrassing bloody nose here.

Something that can’t be dressed up by his yes men as any sort of victory.

Every time he walks out on any world stage, he knows people are having a little laugh.

Sadly, his disgusting tactics elsewhere suggest that’s wishful thinking.

[maqroll]

53 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

Saw a video on it on B1M YouTube channel a few months back on how Turkey is building a waterway around it in Istanbul for economic reasons because they'll have more control over it and can charge ships for using it, the international pact they have which gives them control over the bosphorus is something like the montreux agreement and means that it has to stay open unless they are at war with Russia or feel threatened by Russia 

I don't think they can close the strait because Russia is at war with someone else, they'll be in violation of the pact

Will be interesting though 

B1M is excellent. 

[blandy]

1 hour ago, tonyh29 said:

Not a Boeing / Airbus thing or a remote switch but I referred to my friend a few days ago and the company he works for do potentially have the capability to deny access to some flight systems to the Russian airlines … exactly what I couldn’t say for certainty but I got the impression this denial could ground their fleet….France are the only other country with an alternative system  , so presumably Russia couldn’t get around it … but as of last week it was merely discussions to work out if they can lock Russia out the system  , it didn’t seem cut and dried 

Aeroflot have over 100 airbus and Boeing in their fleet , S7 also operate them … guess sanctions could mean spare parts are not available and ground them ?

I saw your post the other day, speculating about GPS on the back of your mate’s info. I was going to type a reply, explaining why it wasn’t, based on what you posted, but thought it’d be too dull and specialist. I still think the same.

I don’t know of anything that could be switched off by a business to ground an aircraft. Stuff like WAAS for GPS, TIS, ground infrastructure for MLS, ILS, DME,VOR,..and a whole bunch of other TLAs (see, I told you - dull) all would impact usability adversely, but not actually ground planes.
With GPS, the US govt controls the system and while pretty much the whole world relies on it, they turned off Selective availability ages ago. But even If they were to dither the non military satellite data they’d screw everyone in that part of the world the same, including Ukraine.   Further the Russians have their own (worse) version, GLONASS, so….

All that said, airliners and cargo planes are not the stuff I work on, so there may be something I’m overlooking.

thanks for the info re Aeroflot’s fleet.

[maqroll]

22 minutes ago, Xela said:

I get the feeling that young Russians, say under 30, aren't supportive of Putin and this war either. 

Social media changes everything. The truth is out there if you are savvy enough to tune out the lies. 

[Genie]

9 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

Without wishing to sound excited or entertained by war, I really hope that Putin gets an indisputable embarrassing bloody nose here.

Something that can’t be dressed up by his yes men as any sort of victory.

Every time he walks out on any world stage, he knows people are having a little laugh.

Sadly, his disgusting tactics elsewhere suggest that’s wishful thinking.

It would be great, I know we’re talking big hypotheticals here, but if that scenario did play out they’d have to “lose” Putin somehow afterwards. Otherwise he’d just plot another attempt with even more soldiers and firepower some point in the future. 

[blandy]

27 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

Once when you poured toffee sauce over a steak pie but I don’t think I was present at the other one   

Ha   that was the third time. I’d forgotten about it….Grrr

one of the other ones was the lovely @Xanntold me I was wrong about something bolitical or other. The second was a question about a travelator*
 

 

 

*I may have deliberately overlooked thousands of other instances, but no one ever reads the small print, or deleted threads

[Panto_Villan]

15 minutes ago, blandy said:

I saw your post the other day, speculating about GPS on the back of your mate’s info. I was going to type a reply, explaining why it wasn’t, based on what you posted, but thought it’d be too dull and specialist. I still think the same.

I don’t know of anything that could be switched off by a business to ground an aircraft. Stuff like WAAS for GPS, TIS, ground infrastructure for MLS, ILS, DME,VOR,..and a whole bunch of other TLAs (see, I told you - dull) all would impact usability adversely, but not actually ground planes.
With GPS, the US govt controls the system and while pretty much the whole world relies on it, they turned off Selective availability ages ago. But even If they were to dither the non military satellite data they’d screw everyone in that part of the world the same, including Ukraine.   Further the Russians have their own (worse) version, GLONASS, so….

All that said, airliners and cargo planes are not the stuff I work on, so there may be something I’m overlooking

I might be wrong, but I thought I read something yesterday that there was a surprising number of carve-outs in the US sanctions and one of them was civil aviation?

[blandy]

26 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

Without wishing to sound excited or entertained by war, I really hope that Putin gets an indisputable embarrassing bloody nose here.

Something that can’t be dressed up by his yes men as any sort of victory.

Every time he walks out on any world stage, he knows people are having a little laugh.

Sadly, his disgusting tactics elsewhere suggest that’s wishful thinking.

The flip side is he goes even more postal and does something, well, y’know…utterly insane.

[foreveryoung]

25 minutes ago, maqroll said:

B1M is excellent. 

Agreed, actually shocks me what they can build for 50-75 billion when HS2 is probably gonna cost in excess of 100 Billion for a smaller project.

[blandy]

6 minutes ago, Panto_Villan said:

I might be wrong, but I thought I read something yesterday that there was a surprising number of carve-outs in the US sanctions and one of them was civil aviation?

I think that’ll be around flight safety. They’re not going to want civil aircraft to crash or be at risk due to an absence of tech which keeps people/ passengers safe (as I alluded to earlier).

[TheAuthority]

29 minutes ago, blandy said:

I saw your post the other day, speculating about GPS on the back of your mate’s info. I was going to type a reply, explaining why it wasn’t, based on what you posted, but thought it’d be too dull and specialist. I still think the same.

I don’t know of anything that could be switched off by a business to ground an aircraft. Stuff like WAAS for GPS, TIS, ground infrastructure for MLS, ILS, DME,VOR,..and a whole bunch of other TLAs (see, I told you - dull) all would impact usability adversely, but not actually ground planes.
With GPS, the US govt controls the system and while pretty much the whole world relies on it, they turned off Selective availability ages ago. But even If they were to dither the non military satellite data they’d screw everyone in that part of the world the same, including Ukraine.   Further the Russians have their own (worse) version, GLONASS, so….

All that said, airliners and cargo planes are not the stuff I work on, so there may be something I’m overlooking.

thanks for the info re Aeroflot’s fleet.

[Sid4ever]

59 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

Once when you poured toffee sauce over a steak pie but I don’t think I was present at the other one   

I so wanted to give you a like, but then remembered you are a southerner who drinks shandy 

[blandy]

10 minutes ago, TheAuthority said:

TLA - three letter acronym. Actually they’re mostly initialisations and something that is like a language all of its own in the military sphere. Oh! sorry, NFI, I see 

[TheAuthority]

Just now, blandy said:

TLA - three letter acronym. Actually they’re mostly initialisations and something that is like a language all of its own in the military sphere. Of sorry, NFI, I see 

I just have no idea what you're on about, but that's on me!

[foreveryoung]

Seems a bit of a half arsed war by Putin anyway. I mean would he have not found out where the munitions were coming in from by now and closed it off. They are getting more and more weaponry in to fight the Russians, this would need to be priority surely.

Edited February 26, 2022 by foreveryoung

[tonyh29]

38 minutes ago, blandy said:

I saw your post the other day, speculating about GPS on the back of your mate’s info. I was going to type a reply, explaining why it wasn’t, based on what you posted, but thought it’d be too dull and specialist. I still think the same.

I don’t know of anything that could be switched off by a business to ground an aircraft. Stuff like WAAS for GPS, TIS, ground infrastructure for MLS, ILS, DME,VOR,..and a whole bunch of other TLAs (see, I told you - dull) all would impact usability adversely, but not actually ground planes.
With GPS, the US govt controls the system and while pretty much the whole world relies on it, they turned off Selective availability ages ago. But even If they were to dither the non military satellite data they’d screw everyone in that part of the world the same, including Ukraine.   Further the Russians have their own (worse) version, GLONASS, so….

All that said, airliners and cargo planes are not the stuff I work on, so there may be something I’m overlooking.

thanks for the info re Aeroflot’s fleet.

Yeah problem is he’s quite vague about it all so it’s probably me missing the waters a little … I know when a plane goes down or gets hijacked he has to lock down all the engine data so it can’t be tampered with ; so for MH370 he got the call once it became apparent something was wrong , that’s why I speculated GPS but it could be something  to do with waypoints or something , dunno truth be told , but potentially it’s something important … can’t be GLONASS related as he said only the French had an alternative 

[maqroll]

9 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

Seems a bit of a half arsed war by Putin anyway. I mean would he have not found out where the munitions were coming in from by now and closed it off. They are getting more and more weaponry in to fight the Russians, this would need to be priority surely.

This will be TBOTE for Putin. 

[foreveryoung]

Government website down, Official website of the president down, security council website down, Russian Ministry website down these boys mean business, genius.

 

[foreveryoung]

1 minute ago, maqroll said:

This will be TBOTE for Putin. 

TBOTE ?

[maqroll]

1 minute ago, foreveryoung said:

TBOTE ?

The beginning of the end