TrentVilla Posted March 14, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 14, 2017 On 12/03/2017 at 22:36, DK82 said: Interesting that we stuck with Bruce and they sacked McLaren. Is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: Is it? Well yes. Shows our club has patience and a plan - and intend to stick to it. We've needed stability for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Lets hope its the right choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 17 hours ago, VillaChris said: Just saw this post...so hang on Mantis you criticise the British managers who speak PASSHUN and now it's the articulate informative managers who also get it. I don't think I've ever heard Eddie Howe mention passion once in any interview which is refreshing. It's more his tone than anything - he's just really bland and talks in meaningless buzz phrases most of the time. I know most managers do that but there's a big middle ground between being totally robotic and acting like a clown (e.g. Sherwood). It doesn't have to be one or the other. Of course he's still a good manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just seen the stat that the Derby Forest fixture has featured 10 different managers over the last 5 meetings (albeit 2 of those are McLaren). Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, rubberman said: Just seen the stat that the Derby Forest fixture has featured 10 different managers over the last 5 meetings (albeit 2 of those are McLaren). Wow. Completely forgot that McClaren was Forest manager for a couple of months a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 6 hours ago, Mantis said: It's more his tone than anything - he's just really bland and talks in meaningless buzz phrases most of the time. I know most managers do that but there's a big middle ground between being totally robotic and acting like a clown (e.g. Sherwood). It doesn't have to be one or the other. Of course he's still a good manager. Really, when I think of all the managers in the league Howe has to be the least offensive in his interviews. Maybe that's your point but he rarely criticises the ref and always to me analyses the games in a measured way. Refreshing from the blame the ref/crowd/tea lady world of Mourinho, Wenger, Klopp, Dyche , Hughes soundbites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 12 hours ago, DK82 said: Well yes. Shows our club has patience and a plan - and intend to stick to it. We've needed stability for a while. Must be remembered that Derby have been in this league for 10 years and over that time they've spent a massive amount on their squad....likes of Hughes, Bent, Vydra, Nugent, Bradley Johnson etc won't be on a fiver a week, they'll be on bottom half premier league wages. So the expectation from the owner is minimum 6th and when they slip below that usually means the manager is sacked. We're at a completely different point...first time in this league for 30 years and despite all the money this season has taken a lot of time to get used to the level. I think now we're consistently getting to grips with what is required so looking forward to next season now, hopefully won't be yet another false dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, VillaChris said: Really, when I think of all the managers in the league Howe has to be the least offensive in his interviews. Maybe that's your point but he rarely criticises the ref and always to me analyses the games in a measured way. Refreshing from the blame the ref/crowd/tea lady world of Mourinho, Wenger, Klopp, Dyche , Hughes soundbites. Yep, that was exactly my point. He comes across as totally bland. Edited March 15, 2017 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Think derby are gonna be a force now with rowett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Wouldn't be a massive shock....their squad man for man is better than Reading and Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 15, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Depends really, at Small Heath, Rowett played really negatively, played on the counter attack but did it very well. Can he get away with doing that at Derby? Edited March 15, 2017 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Derby's best formation is 4-3-3...Pearson trying to play 4-4-2 was a complete disaster. I think Rowett's a good fit for Derby with their squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 9 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Think derby are gonna be a force now with rowett I do think you overrate Rowett a tad mate. He's decent but not a genius. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Rowett be lucky to have Derby near play-offs next season. He plays dour football which is opposite of what Derby have available to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Xela said: I do think you overrate Rowett a tad mate. He's decent but not a genius. Have to admit I do rate rowett not just at blose but his work at burton Albion. I think he has potential to go far. I think it's abit premature to say whether he is a genius or not, but this derby job will be tough so if he can make a success of this ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Derby have so underachieved. I think he will do a good job there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Zatman said: Rowett be lucky to have Derby near play-offs next season. He plays dour football which is opposite of what Derby have available to them The highlighted bit is the reason that the Derby job could define his career. I agree that if he plays the horrible, dour style he played at sha, he will struggle with the Derby squad and it will typecast his managerial style which will create a championship ceiling for him. If however he is capable of adapting his style and proves successful, his career could take off. Its a make or break opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted March 16, 2017 Karanka gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted March 16, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 16, 2017 13 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Have to admit I do rate rowett not just at blose but his work at burton Albion. I think he has potential to go far. I think it's abit premature to say whether he is a genius or not, but this derby job will be tough so if he can make a success of this ... I think he is massively over rated personally and very limited. If you want a team to be organised, structured and hard to beat he can do that. But more than that? It remains to be seen, personally I think not. I don't think he is right for Derby or them right for him, I don't think it will work out. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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