VillaChris Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) Yeah this is what I'm on about.... No. Selections Event Event Date E/W Terms Odds Result 1 Man Utd - 1st Goal Before 40:00 Bournemouth v Man Utd (Away Team Time of Next Goal) 14/08/2016 None 9/1 Won Stake: 22.00 Returns: 220.00 Thank you Juan, scored with 5 seconds to spare! Try doing it over a full season though.... Edited August 14, 2016 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 42 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I'm probably only down a couple of hundred quid over my lifetime Not specific to your goodself, it just reminded me of something. I'm always impressed with the number of people that do gamble that claim to be up on the deal or more or less even or earning a living from it. There are two of them in my office, both making a bit of extra money through gambling. Though saying that, I've been to the horses twice and I'm literally a couple of quid up, so who am I to talk. But if even half these self assessments are accurate, I'm amazed the bookies are still in business, nevermind thriving with profit in the billions. Somebody somewhere must be losing. Certainly losing more than a couple of hundred over a lifetime. My drive home passes a street full of every high street bookies. If any of the blokes in and out of them every day are making a profit, they ain't spending it on clothes. (not a judgement on gambling, just on people's assessment of how they are doing at it, it strikes me they're as good at financial maths as I am at calorie counting) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I suspect the ones doing the worst are not the ones telling you how they're doing. Probably also a healthy amount of self-denial going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Read somewhere that a handful of fruit machines will cover rent. Remember a few years back fruities had to return 70p in the pound over x thousand spins. It appears that's been ditched on the newer gamblers, there's no minimum! Though 'legacy machines' are still bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Get on the 5.25 My Vicky 100/1 EW Punt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Not specific to your goodself, it just reminded me of something. I'm always impressed with the number of people that do gamble that claim to be up on the deal or more or less even or earning a living from it. There are two of them in my office, both making a bit of extra money through gambling. Though saying that, I've been to the horses twice and I'm literally a couple of quid up, so who am I to talk. But if even half these self assessments are accurate, I'm amazed the bookies are still in business, nevermind thriving with profit in the billions. Somebody somewhere must be losing. Certainly losing more than a couple of hundred over a lifetime. My drive home passes a street full of every high street bookies. If any of the blokes in and out of them every day are making a profit, they ain't spending it on clothes. (not a judgement on gambling, just on people's assessment of how they are doing at it, it strikes me they're as good at financial maths as I am at calorie counting) Depends what they do but pretty sure if you win 1000s on online the websites freeze your accounts (on a business decision) or limit your stakes to very small amounts. I tried it for about 6 months when I left a job....nowhere near enough to have a comfortable living. You could possibly live on the breadline if you had a lucky few weeks, 300 quid a week is pretty much on a par with minimum wage when you take into account no tax but doing it week after week, month after month is blooming hard! Now Fruit/quiz machine gambling...that is a different story. Edited August 14, 2016 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) On 15/08/2016 at 02:04, VillaChris said: Depends what they do but pretty sure if you win 1000s on online the websites freeze your accounts (on a business decision) or limit your stakes to very small amounts. pretty much this. guy on poker site used to work pretty high up in one of the major betting firms and says they would always ban accounts if it looks like they know what theyre doing. they dont need to give reasons for the ban i pretty much just assume everyone is bullshitting if they say theyre winners at football sports betting. especially prem football. pretty sure its the most -ev sports betting there is. and to the guy about self asssessments. peoples self assessments are HORRIBLY wrong. the amount of selective memory when it comes to gambling is pretty incredible. And the general public do not understand variance at all. or they will claim to be winners because they bet once like £100 and won, but then lost a bunch of £1 bets but because theyre up $ wise, they think theyre "winning". when theyre not. bookies make a killing variance is just so key. Edited August 16, 2016 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Simple solution to having accounts limited is to use Betfair, which you would expect serious gamblers to be doing anyway to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 14/08/2016 at 14:20, chrisp65 said: Not specific to your goodself, it just reminded me of something. I'm always impressed with the number of people that do gamble that claim to be up on the deal or more or less even or earning a living from it. There are two of them in my office, both making a bit of extra money through gambling. Though saying that, I've been to the horses twice and I'm literally a couple of quid up, so who am I to talk. But if even half these self assessments are accurate, I'm amazed the bookies are still in business, nevermind thriving with profit in the billions. Somebody somewhere must be losing. Certainly losing more than a couple of hundred over a lifetime. My drive home passes a street full of every high street bookies. If any of the blokes in and out of them every day are making a profit, they ain't spending it on clothes. (not a judgement on gambling, just on people's assessment of how they are doing at it, it strikes me they're as good at financial maths as I am at calorie counting) 97% of people lose money long term betting. Of the 3% who win long term bookies put effort in to reducing the amount of money they can get on to reduce the size of those losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 17/08/2016 at 12:39, AVFCDAN said: Simple solution to having accounts limited is to use Betfair, which you would expect serious gamblers to be doing anyway to be honest. You can only get decent sized bets on closer to the start of races when there has been ample time for prices to settle on the true price. So your margins get squeezed tight if you try use betfair. You need to spread bets across non closers/ factored accounts or do walkers bets around 11am (bet in shops). Logistics is the tricky part to making pro or semi pro gambling pay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 @CVByrne Conor, are you going to be resurrecting your Jumps Adviser site after the summer off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Hi Snowy, yes I will be but mate you have to follow me on twitter. I always post a tweet to my jumpadviser selections so it's best way to follow my bets. I won Galway Plate and Kerry National already this season but I only tweeted the winning selections as season only gets going proper in Oct and sometimes I don't have time to do a write up on site. Just as an update. For the 2 years from Sep 2014 my profit on turnover has been 29%. But that jumps to 61% if you exclude all bets of 5/1 or less. So I'm focussing on the bigger odds only bets now to cut out the losing ones. I'm hopeful of a very good season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 10 hours ago, CVByrne said: Hi Snowy, yes I will be but mate you have to follow me on twitter. I always post a tweet to my jumpadviser selections so it's best way to follow my bets. I won Galway Plate and Kerry National already this season but I only tweeted the winning selections as season only gets going proper in Oct and sometimes I don't have time to do a write up on site. Just as an update. For the 2 years from Sep 2014 my profit on turnover has been 29%. But that jumps to 61% if you exclude all bets of 5/1 or less. So I'm focussing on the bigger odds only bets now to cut out the losing ones. I'm hopeful of a very good season. I can confirm both that he won Galway Plate and Kerry National and that he Tweeted them! Cheers Conor, im up over £3k already and season hasnt started. I deffo owe you a drink or loads of drinks... Season goes well im getting and Im adding an IWC Portuguese to my collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Ha Cheers Zak. I would be wary of getting carried away with those two great wins. Normally Nov is when the wins start racking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Over a lifetime I'm up for sure but that's only because I have been lucky to land some absolute monster accas at the football and racing festivals . I won £17k as a 19 year old (1999) on a 15 team acca and there is no way on earth I have come close to giving that back to the bookies over the years . Since then I have had at least 14 different wins of over a grand too. I don't win often, as I like big odds, but when I do win it's usually a nice one. Edited September 29, 2016 by Brumerican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 34 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Ha Cheers Zak. I would be wary of getting carried away with those two great wins. Normally Nov is when the wins start racking up. Iv been following your suggestion for over 2 years now i think. so just keep up the good work. Thought you might appreciate that it was going to a watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 IWC Portuguese is a top watch. Right way to spend winnings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Was a croupier for a few years. If you can set yourself a limit - and stick to it - then by all means spend your money however you want to. Personally, I hate it. I worked with people who would be dealing for 10-12 hours, and then after work they'd go to a different casino and gamble their just-earned wages away. Some people live and breathe the lifestyle but I absolutely hated it. Don't miss it a single bit and I've never looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Port Vale, Plymouth, Brentford and Sutton Utd look a good fourfold tomorrow. It pays 11/1 on Bet365 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Time to buy that watch Zak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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