Captain_Townsend Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I was already a bit depressed that I'd be over 40 when the North Stand was finished, now I suspect I'll be 50 and the ground will look much the same. This looks so good and such a shame if it doesn't go ahead. Uploaded December 2022, scrapped December 2023. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: The atmosphere was cracking against Inter in 1994 with thr Holte end as a building site. Exactly. What does the North Stand hold, 6,000? That still leaves 36,000 in the ground, and the North Stand is hardly renowned as a hot bed of fervent support. You could reduce the away allocation and just give them the bottom half of the corner they have. Maybe temporarily fill in the corners either side of the Holte, it really isn't going to make that much difference to the atmosphere. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Risso said: Exactly. What does the North Stand hold, 6,000? That still leaves 36,000 in the ground, and the North Stand is hardly renowned as a hot bed of fervent support. You could reduce the away allocation and just give them the bottom half of the corner they have. Maybe temporarily fill in the corners either side of the Holte, it really isn't going to make that much difference to the atmosphere. Someone needs to be quizzing Heck in a much more forensic manner. Was surprised to see the Villa reporter just parrot what Heck said. That was a massive announcement yesterday with long term repercussions and by means of explanation he got to spout a lot of, er, unchallenged garbage as far as I am concerned. Edited December 20, 2023 by Captain_Townsend 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: Was surprised to see the Villa reporter just parrot what Heck said. You were surprised he didn't give his boss a hard time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Davkaus said: You were surprised he didn't give his boss a hard time? Ha, no, I mean Townley, the dude with the Birmingham Mail! His tweets, he broke the story first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Fun Factory Posted December 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) I have spent a day off the boards, and none of it makes any sense. And all of the reasoning casually mentioned mid-point in a general interview is just so amateurish. Purslow made have looked like a tory lounge lizard but his updates were professional, succinct and to the point. It was only about a year ago he was on Sky News talking about the redevelopment.' If Heck had just said look it isn't cost-effective I would disagree but at least it would be an argument. Saying we are building 'too fast' is utter drivel. I think it is going to be hard to get fans on board on any future consultation as both the stadium redevelopment ones and the crest badge have been binned off. I would also like to know if Heck has actually spent a game in the North Stand. If he wants to charge premium pricing for a badly outdated stand then he should be challenged very hard on this. It is not fit for purpose now, let alone for another 5-10 years. Edited December 20, 2023 by The Fun Factory 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2023 4 hours ago, El Segundo said: Fair enough it's quite a big increase. But, even then, what other possible locations within the Birmingham area would be immune to such challenges, and why hasn't it stopped Liverpool going to >60k? If there have been major transport and access upgrades around Anfield fair enough but I'm not aware of any. Yep. Anfield has no railway stations in anything like a reasonable vicinity. You've a 40 odd minute walk to a station and then the service won't be near as good as The Cross City line. There are no trams. So you're basically relying on buses and driving. Good for 62,000 no problem. We've actually ALREADY got far better transport links than probably any stadium outside of London. The whole argument is nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Teale's 'tache said: Change is coming one way or another, whether you or I like it or not. Did you not see the announcement? Change has been cancelled. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 hours ago, TRO said: I see enough evidence of commercial, industrial and religious buildings, going up to suggest that may not be accurate... I also see demolition companies, making a decent living too....there are brown field sites being made, regularly....but I suspect inner Birmingham would still be counter productive, due to the road network, being congested. However, the road and rail networks are the biggest consideration to tap in to, so I would guess, around by the NEC in Solihull, would be Prime land, for such a prospect/project. It is also close to Birmingham Airport, another consideration on our Global agenda.....and BMH I don't think you appreciate a) just how big a plot of land is needed and b) how expensive it would be to buy and flatten such a huge chunk of real estate. Doing anything in the city centre proper is going to cost way way more than just doing our own stand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 The only thing that makes sense to me is the money is needed elsewhere where the project will have a better rate of return. I might not want to advertise this as a reason not to invest in Villa Park at the moment. Transport? In 1946 ... record attendance 76 588. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 20, 2023 There will apparently be some sort of announcement coming in the next couple of days on this. (It's not a new stadium). 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) Choose which option you would like a new stadium to look like? Option 1) Option 2) Option 3) Option 4) Option 5) Option 6) Option 7) Edited December 20, 2023 by Pongo Waring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 If anyone has ChatGPT you can create some designs too. 100000 Behemoth Villa Park. Yes please. Aston n Witton flattened? Yes please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Did you not see the announcement? Change has been cancelled. Which is in itself a change... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted December 20, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 Just a reminder that the club have said regularly on a number of occasions and have reiterated at tonight's supporters group meeting, we're not going to be moving to a new stadium - it's not happening, we're not moving, they aren't planning it, thinking about it or considering it - not Heck, not the owners, not anyone. I hope that helps. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Glad to hear it. Still odd to cancel development. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted December 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 OBE's really pushing the "no new stadium" angle. Must be to enhance the surprise 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said: Just a reminder that the club have said regularly on a number of occasions and have reiterated at tonight's supporters group meeting, we're not going to be moving to a new stadium - it's not happening, we're not moving, they aren't planning it, thinking about it or considering it - not Heck, not the owners, not anyone. I hope that helps. I hear you but with all due respect you were coming back from those fan meetings only a couple of months before the stand was announced adamant that there were no plans in the foreseeable future to develop Villa Park. But thanks for the feedback, I await their new announcement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) From a. Waiter in shababs…..named GPT… Edited December 20, 2023 by Sulberto21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Follyfoot Posted December 20, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Just a reminder that the club have said regularly on a number of occasions and have reiterated at tonight's supporters group meeting, we're not going to be moving to a new stadium - it's not happening, we're not moving, they aren't planning it, thinking about it or considering it - not Heck, not the owners, not anyone. I hope that helps. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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