Risso Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Erm, nobody's forcing people to phone from a mobile, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 18, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted February 18, 2016 No, they could just buy a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: The phone line to claim Iain Duncan Smith’s new benefits system will cost callers trying to get assistance as much as 45p a minute, it has been confirmed Seems the indie duped me and appear to deliberaty intended to mislead ? 0345 numbers are included in mobile phone talk plans and for those like pay as you go they count as a bog standard call rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Seems the indie duped me and appear to deliberaty intended to mislead ? By writing the following at the bottom of their article with a link to a page detailing 0345 call charges and by also providing a link to that page in the bit of the story that you quoted on here? Quote The typical charges for 0345 numbers across networks can be found here. Edited February 18, 2016 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 30 minutes ago, snowychap said: By writing the following at the bottom of their article with a link to a page detailing 0345 call charges and by also providing a link to that page in the bit of the story that you quoted on here? More that they modified the original article as can be seen via some of the comments That and the fact I didn't read the whole article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: That and the fact I didn't read the whole article You only needed to read the bit of the article you quoted for VT, I think. Edited February 18, 2016 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 3 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I confess I don't really understand. At issue is the criminalisation of local governments and other bodies, such as student unions, boycotting certain products, mostly agricultural produce grown in illegal settlements. Nobody, to my understanding, has actually proposed boycotting all Israeli products. However, even if they did, the types of organisation that are under discussion are not able to dictate which medicines are available on the NHS. As to whether any individual feels strongly enough about boycotting Israeli products to not use a drug that could save their lives, well, that's up to them and their consciences I guess. But that's not relevant to the legislation? I'm sure I'm just being dumb, and missing the point here somehow. There's nothing much there to understand Hanoi. I repeated a point I half heard on the radio that I thought was interesting, then found myself suckered in to defending it where I should have made clear I was just repeating it for the point of debate. I'm still interested in the ethics of it, the NHS bit wasn't the intended point of interest. The point I was blundering around was exactly how principled the people / students/ councillors making these decisions might be. It's easy to ban orange juice from the canteen, then buy sweatshop trainers and Saudi petrol and Chinese tat. I think it's less about you being dumb, more about my point lacking any real focus or conviction! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: Seems the indie duped me and appear to deliberaty intended to mislead ? 0345 numbers are included in mobile phone talk plans and for those like pay as you go they count as a bog standard call rate It's a very poor newspaper and won't be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: There's nothing much there to understand Hanoi. I repeated a point I half heard on the radio that I thought was interesting, then found myself suckered in to defending it where I should have made clear I was just repeating it for the point of debate. I'm still interested in the ethics of it, the NHS bit wasn't the intended point of interest. The point I was blundering around was exactly how principled the people / students/ councillors making these decisions might be. It's easy to ban orange juice from the canteen, then buy sweatshop trainers and Saudi petrol and Chinese tat. I think it's less about you being dumb, more about my point lacking any real focus or conviction! Gotcha! I would assume most people are probably not 'that' principled . . . . it's kind of hard to live your life like that. Avoiding things 'made in China' is pretty much consigning yourself to an agrarian existence in a mud hut. As I said, most of the boycotts I've seen proposed are targeted quite specifically at produce from settlements. Certainly this is the most effective, IMO, because it makes clear the issue is with 'the policy not the people'. EDIT: . . . . and therefore it's much easier to uphold consistently, which was the point of this paragraph! Edited February 18, 2016 by HanoiVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 1 hour ago, snowychap said: You only needed to read the bit of the article you quoted for VT, I think. You think ? It was only one page back , you're even lazier than me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: You think ? It was only one page back You quoted it again on the same page. I just didn't want to appear too certain in case I'd somehow missed something but thanks for the confirmation that you weren't 'duped'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) edit - probably better not Edited February 18, 2016 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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blandy Posted February 25, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted February 25, 2016 On 18 February 2016 at 22:03, Risso said: It's a very poor newspaper and won't be missed. I think the opposite, Though if you only went off their website I'd agree. The actual paper paper is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tonyh29 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I'd take them more seriously if they hadn't used the Talking Moose on a Macintosh to do the voice over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 25, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted February 25, 2016 Blimey - I'd forgotten about that Moose - it was on my first Mac! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, blandy said: Blimey - I'd forgotten about that Moose - it was on my first Mac! that and Oscsar the Grouch are why Microsoft will never rule the universe Edited February 25, 2016 by tonyh29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted February 25, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 25, 2016 13 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: that and Oscsr the Grouch are why Microsoft will never rule the universe I hacked into that grouch control panel so that when he said 'oh, I love trash!' he sounded like Regan from the Exorcist. Good times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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