desensitized43 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, bickster said: So Sunak appears to be sticking with the Rwanda plan and will change domestic law in order to do it. Has he actually read the judgement? He says he will, but he wont. If he was willing to go down that road he'd have just done it already with Suella (I'm mixed race so I can't be a massive racist) Braverman in the home office and saved himself the time and money with the court cases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Simple case of misspeaking and getting words muddled, so a bit of a cheap humour. But that’s the level I’m happy operating at. I watched live and laughed at that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 More yougov fun Quote The government's plan to send asylum seekers to Rwanda has been ruled unlawful by the Supreme Court. Are you surprised at this decision? I am not surprised Live results I am surprised 9% I am not surprised 90% Not sure 1% Only 10% of people think of the policy had gone ahead it would stop most or all of the boats Quote Had the Rwanda plan gone ahead, do you think it would have effectively prevented the small boat crossings? It would have prevented hardly any or none of them Others said… It would have prevented all or most of them 10% It would have prevented some of them 25% It would have prevented hardly any or none of them 64% Not sure 0% This is probably the most worrying one of all, 29% of respondents think we should withdraw from the ECHR. Quote In your view, should the UK withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR)? It should not Live results It should 29% It should not 68% Not sure 3% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Of the 29% that want to withdraw from the ECHR there should be a second question with a text box for answers: What is the ECHR? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Genie said: Back? They didn’t come from Rwanda, is he aware of that? They're from Abroadia, Rwanda is Abroadia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Of the 29% that want to withdraw from the ECHR there should be a second question with a text box for answers: What is the ECHR? if it gets rid of the illegals then let’s do it, why not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Genie said: if it gets rid of the illegals then let’s do it, why not? It’s forrin innit. I was born here you caaaaant, I don’t get a free house. Where’s your **** poppy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: It’s forrin innit. I was born here you caaaaant, I don’t get a free house. Where’s your **** poppy? It’s the same short sightedness that gave us Brexit. Theres something with a thousand upsides, but if we leave it we can do something about those foreigners*. Shall we do it? Yeah!! Engurlaaaaaand Engurlaaaaaand Engurlaaaaaand *actually it’ll make no difference, and it turns out the foreigners are good for the country. Edited November 15, 2023 by Genie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) Sunak saying he’s not happy because an independent court without party affiliation looked at the evidence without prejudice and decided Rwanda definitely wasn’t safe when parliament populated by a combination of right wing Tory scumbags and spineless Tory scumbags who were whipped to tow the party line decided it definitely is. Edited November 15, 2023 by desensitized43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 He’s going to pass an emergency law, to enable them to ignore…..the law. Party of law and order my arse. If they get away with this, no laws are safe. We’re becoming a banana republic under this lot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted November 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2023 The most alarming part of today's news is Sunak declaring that they'll start naming the judges who review the cases on the deportation orders and issue injunctions, when they're currently not named. What is that other than a call to arms to the far right to intimidate judges? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, meregreen said: He’s going to pass an emergency law, to enable them to ignore…..the law. Party of law and order my arse. If they get away with this, no laws are safe. We’re becoming a banana republic under this lot. If that route to getting what you want is legitimate, then how incompetent were they not to have done that in the first place? Of course, if it isn’t legitimate, then it’s another step towards that banana republic where the likes of Braverman, Gullis, and Anderson make up shit on the hoof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Doubt it's accurate but.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, villan95 said: Doubt it's accurate but.. It's not. It's Matt Goodwin's PeoplePolling and should be completely ignored, even when it's saying something that people want. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 How does Sunak expect this latest move to play out? They change the law and declare Rwanda a safe country and people just accept it and move on? Of course not. There will be challenges to it, and on the basis nothing has changed to make it any safer I’d expect them to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Genie said: Next question for Mr Sunak, you’ve stated you’re the party of law and order, yet the deputy party chairman is suggesting breaking / ignoring the law to send migrants to Rwanda illegally… what’s your view on that? Apparently ITV reporter said she asked Rishi Sunak if he’d sack 30p Lee for this comment and he responded to say he understood Lee’s frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Also, why are they talking about 'returns' to Rwanda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Also, why are they talking about 'returns' to Rwanda? Well they have only just appointed a minister for common sense, so I imagine she will need to get settled in first before sorting all this sillyness out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Criminal gangs move people from all corners of the world to the UK, what’s to stop them setting up in Rwanda and moving the new recruits back to the UK? I doubt Rwanda will work very hard to stop them having these people taken off their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Also, why are they talking about 'returns' to Rwanda? Because it's a sequel. They'll need a new name for each failed atte. I'm looking forward to Revenge of The Suella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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