VILLAMARV Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 24 minutes ago, VillaChris said: How on earth did Hungary sneak into pot 3? Norn Iron finished comfortably above them in qualifying yet in pot 4? The seedings just rank them according to the UEFA coefficients taken at the end of the groups and before the playoffs. (I think it involves the previous 5 years of results). The exceptions being the hosts and the holders (if they qualify - which Spain obviously did) will automatically be placed in Pot 1 regardless of coefficient ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Just double checked myself and it is 5 years and here's the weighting The national team coefficients are calculated on a country's recent results. In the current rankings, 20% weighting is given to UEFA EURO 2012 results (qualifying/final tournament), and 40% each to the 2014 FIFA World Cup (qualifying/final tournament) and UEFA EURO 2016 (qualifying). Also here's the knockout phase. Round of 16 (all times CET) Match 1: Runner-up Group A v Runner-up C (15.00, 25 June, St-Etienne) Match 2: Winner D v Third-place B/E/F (21.00, 25 June, Lens) Match 3: Winner B v Third-place A/C/D (18.00, 25 June, Paris) Match 4: Winner F v Runner-up E (21.00, 26 June, Toulouse) Match 5: Winner C v Third-place A/B/F (18.00, 26 June, Lille) Match 6: Winner E v Runner-up D (18.00, 27 June, St-Denis) Match 7: Winner A v Third-place C/D/E (15.00, 26 June, Lyon) Match 8: Runner-up B v Runner-up F (21.00, 27 June, Nice) • For which third place team will play in each tie, see Article 17.03 of the Official Regulations Quarter-finals 1: Winner Match 1 v Winner Match 2 (21.00, 30 June, Marseille) 2: Winner Match 3 v Winner Match 4 (21.00, 1 July, Lille) 3: Winner Match 5 v Winner Match 6 (21.00, 2 July, Bordeaux) 4: Winner Match 7 v Winner Match 8 (21.00, 3 July, St-Denis) Semi-finals 1: Winner QF1 v Winner QF2 (21.00, 6 July, Lyon) 2: Winner QF3 v Winner QF4 (21.00, 7 July, Marseille) Final Winner SF1 v Winner SF2 (21.00, 10 July, St-Denis) http://www.uefa.com/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 Countries that have qualified in blue... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 9, 2015 Moderator Share Posted December 9, 2015 Clickings Nerd post alert It's written for Ireland but applies to everyone. Quote Unless you're a statistics and mathematics genius, you would probably have gone along with the rest of us sheep and just assumed that Saturday's Euro 2016 draw is all fine and dandy. Ireland are in pot 4 because that's where the seedings decided we deserved to be. We'll be drawn into a tough group and we'll have to make do with it. The odds are stacked against us simply because our results over the past number of years have been average at best. However, depending on what group we're drawn in, that may not be the only way in which the draw is stacked against us. Given that we barely listened in Leaving Cert maths like the rest of the country, our knowledge of statistics and probability would have meant that the following scenario would have completely passed us by. However, a reddit user by the name of Sebastian Wolsing is significantly more intelligent than that and he has managed to work out and explain why the group that Ireland are drawn in on Saturday already has a bearing on the likelihood of our progression through the competition. Put simply, Group E is evil and Group A would be perfect. The fact that the Euros is a 24 team tournament for the first time has delivered some significant problems. 16 teams works perfectly, as does 32 for the World Cup. 24 means that the second round will be occupied by the top two teams in each of the six groups as well as the four best third place finishers. That leaves 16 teams from which a normal second round can be played just like the World Cup. However, the seedings and draw mean that this structure is inherently weighted against certain groups from the outset. According to Wolsing, the nature of the draw means that; The winners of group A, B, C and D get to face third-placed teams,when the winners of group E and F move on to face runner-ups. The runner-ups of group A, B, C and F get to face other runner-ups,when the runner-ups of group D and E move on to face winners. As such, A, B and C get the advantage of both those scenarios. D and F get the advantage of one of them and E gets diddly squat in terms of a third place team. That situation has a knock on effect in the following rounds. Essentially, the competition is laid out in such a way that the teams in Group A have a statistically greater chance of progression through to the final. Wolsing has demonstrated this by looking at what would happen if the winner and runner-up of each group were to be given the hardest possible route through to the final. The following table sums up it up nicely. '3' indicates a third place group finisher, '2' a second place group finisher and '1' a group winner. The higher the number, the (theoretically) easier it is for a team to win the competition. Now obviously enough this is all entirely dependent on the teams finishing the group stage according to their seedings but it's interesting to note that France are already drawn in Group A as hosts. At the end of the day we'll be going in to the draw on Saturday hoping for the least strong opposition possible and we'll largely forget about the slightly skewed maths of it all but if nothing else it's some extremely impressive calculations and very interesting stuff if you're mathematically inclined. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 meh doesnt make sense and just seems scaremongering before the draw, World Cup 86-94 was the same way. If Ireland finish 3rd in any group they have a chance if qualifying and thats probably most we can hope for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 R.O.I will get drawn in France's group..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 and we will have our vengeance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 10, 2015 Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2015 Please McGrath, make us the opening fixture where we spoil the merde out of their party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 12, 2015 Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2015 It's on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I predict England Croatia Sweden Ireland hope im wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 ive got a **** england ticket!! * i think, ive got B1 vs B4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Wales. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 12, 2015 Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2015 Wales is England's worst pot 4 team IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I agree. just waiting on Italy and Sweden now and Roy could be bottom of the group again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 France in easy group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 12, 2015 Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2015 Italy is the giant snot sandwich lurking in the pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Amazingly, in this new era of governing bodies, the hosts seem to have quite an easy group ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 agree, if they get italy too... could still be a very tough group for england, fortunately i think pot 3 is pretty weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 brilliant draw for France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Russia, Slovakia, Wales then. Harsh groups for both the Irelands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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