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Blur for me. I don't listen to either much. But a deciding factor here is that the gallaghers are completely wanky humans. I know that's not the debate but it still influences my decision. Anyway whenever i head Oasis songs on the radio I have to switch over as Im bored senseless by them. Maybe hearing them too much, but to me at least - there's no passion or soul in their stuff. I am not a musician and certainly will not attempt to argue it on a technical level, but purely on the final sound.and Oasis' really really really gets on my tits. I have friends who are big into metal of various varieities and argue its technically brilliant but all I hear is some mentalist occasionally screaming indecipherable lyrics between loud riffing. Oasis is the same, all I hear is this inherent whiney whine whine to their voices.

the fact ive been single for almost two years with ne'er a whisper of intimacywith no chance of that situation changing any time soon probably does influence that decision. PLus the brief moments of intimacy so far have been pretty woeful. Mock ahead, but I'm really not bothered. I tend to live in my mind anyway.

Music. I'm a dab hand shandy man, football is more or less entirely amoral now and booze is hardly irreplaceable. Music keeps me sane.

if they want to be so fundamentally adamant in their opposition to rational thought, and hold such aggressive anti-science positions then there's no shade of grey. No **** scientific benefits. No cherry picking some scientific advancements which don't conflict with the bible - no instead just **** off **** off and **** off, get cancer from those natural non gmo crops, spawn your downs children, struggle under the weight of a huge family on minimal financial assistance, don't use any form of mechanised transport etc.... in short just go amish.

bottom line - if a creationist falls ill - he shouldn't be treated by any modern medicine.

that was just cahill to be fair the whinging prick.

wales were clearly better and I'm English!

probably true, but I am also the insular kind of chap who elects to listen to my own music on my ipod rather than the stores selection. I did used to work in a bar where they played loads of random music some good some shit, couldn't identify any of them now, maybe it was played then. edit : typically I listen to 5live on the radio but even then I now just tend to download podcasts, and watch various dvds on the telly and get new music suggestions via friend recommendations. I don't watch any entertainment shows either. Shop music would be the one form I suppose where I can hear them, but there we go:/ Also first half of 2007 I was living in France too

don't listen to music radio and don't watch music telly. not my scene so why would i? i've heard OF it and the artist as even non shit papers deem it rediculously newsworthy but thats it. perfectly easy to miss.

I hope that man falls out of a plane. Onto a seatless bike.

never heard of it either.

I got on better with the teachers than the other students there which tells you all you need to know about how I enjoyed it quite a few kids there I swear I'd probably half smile if they actually got killed. I know thats wrong and bitter etc, but a couple of kids at my middle school and secondary made life hell at times. you shouldn't have regrets but 10/10 times I'd love to re-do school times and just be confident through it, have self respect etc. Then there were the usual pointless school rules I'd manage to break. I'd avoid the CCF thing and cite my pacificsm when I was 16, got into detention a couple of times when I refused to march up and down for two hours bored out of my head. They gave up eventually though and I was allowed to just play tennis o squash instead. Same with all the re classes - my teacher was quite nice but frustrated he never got me to listen. By and large I was a very quiet kid at school but at RE I was vocally sarky about it in class. I never took the exams seriously because it was impossible, and I think I failed my gcse in it due to writing about the commercial elements of chritstianity at all and wondering where the dinosaurs fitted in. Being forced to sit through morning assembly and getting into trouble for theatrically falling asleep through it, and when asked why i didn't turn up the occasional sunday service usually bring out the atheist line - trying to often bring this line up anytime one of the muslim or hindu kids was in the room at the same time as they were of course naturally excused whereas perceived apathy with christianity was evidently another matter. I lost all motivaiton to do anything in the last two years - except some dofe which was good fun actually good memories of that - went with my best mate and couple of tools - nice but just really daft people - and of course there are good memories which I remember. Stuff like the whole class being put in detention for having all suffered a massive giggling fit due to the spanish teacher wearing wonky glasses and us asking the meaning for words like "crooked" and "glasses" and " i am wearing crooked glasses" ( one of the few moments I guess ) convincing the latin teacher - a rally cool guy to let us watch life of brian in class due to that one scene, and another rare highlight : when everyone in the school was doing a cross country run - some charity I think ( I paid my bit btw ) and me and my mate started off whilst the teachers were still in view ans casually arced ourselves away at the nearest blindspot ( after about 200 yards ) got in hims mums car and went back to his to play compluter games for a bit ) before turning up later in the afternoon with macdonalds sandwich in hand to the bemusement of a couple of teachers. I suppose I can remember a few highlights and good times with the select few people I got on with and indeed continue to be friends with today but by and large I'm not sure they outweigh the generaly dislike I had the feeling of not wanting to go in and at times just being so unhappy. But who knows it seems plenty of people felt like that over school days

I've had alot of issues with this kind of topic. When I was a teen I was virulently anti-patriotic and thought the entire concept was thoroughly embarrassing and based on total random chance etc. 23 now, and that view as softened I suppose. whenever ive travelled and been away for a while there are elements I've missed but that's more a case of certain local customs isn't it rather then being patriotic? That said ddid find myself defending britain more often when I was abroad than I do when I'm here. ANd its easier to see a) flaws of other countries once your there and notice more of the positives of britain when you're away too. Tend to forget stuff like that at home when you've got rolling news channells and tabloid newsapers making you went to pull out an uzi and go shooting down editors sky owners and the like. I think I've generally come to the conclusion that all countries have their spectacular flaws and what makes it so frustrating is that you can see the potential for britain to be great yet it continues to frustrate - a wider human problem than just britain though but patriotism - eh - I support britain or england in sporting contensts mostly because I recognise the players more from watching them weekly on the telly. I like living here, and I would miss it if I move abroad permanently, but proud - I just dunno really. Maybe because the idea of british pride in my mind seems a short step from over zealous nationalism and something the bnp would advocate I prefer to just say I'm happy where I live, but I'd be equally happy any other place too. i think i'd be more positive if it werent for the fact there are so many overly patriotic fuckheads about.

how bored are you?

enjoying an old Space record - The Spiders album - classic early nineties stuff :cool: Female of the Species --> Money

married 25 years

I'd return 99.9% of it to the owner. I'd probably keep a grand or two as a finders fee. Not wholly honest, but not terribly evil either. Or I'd ring the chap up and tell him I found the briefcase and see if he offers me a reward. I dunno. I suppose i'd probably do the hand it back and hope for a reward thing, but it's tough I know its a hypothetical but I'm still unsure what I'd do. Went for the middle option

was 30 pre Uni, 36-38 at the end. Put on about 6 of those inches in the final year. Working to bring it back down to 30-32 by the end of this year.

I just read a ben elton book the other day - blind faith. now whilst I was sympathetic broadly speaking to the point - being as subtle as a brick slamming you on the head with a large flashing neon sign saying " I HATE EVERYONE" attached to it, it was readable but a far cry away from his earlier stuff. So, having dispensed with that, I'm flicking through Brysons " A Mother Tongue" atm - interesting but broken up by some serious tedium, and next on the radar - one of the books I bought today - Anna koreninananana ( sp? ) or some book on chekov's short stories. I admite freely I've never read anything by Tolstoy nor ever heard of Chekovs work barring his name. But it was buy one get one free and I thought I might as well shoot for the stars. My excuse is im at least attempting to get there eventually - even if I should probably read some easier stuff first.

well he maybe confusing symbols, but the wink smiley to me suggested he was going for the alternative measurement joke, well I thought so anyway... my mind must just be filthy

I thought 6'0 was supposed to be the average? :winkold: Hell I'm 5'3, EVERYONE is tall... eh... he's talking about a different average than this thread I believe

2 in ( striker / full back ) 2 out ( harewood, routledge )

hmmm, seem to have missed out an option for OBE mind however.

I was always the tiny one at school - my two best mates when I was 12-13 were about a foot taller than me and I ended up developing a very quick gait as a result I was about 5 1 then but about 5 9 3 years later. I'm about 5 11 and a half now, though if I'm insecure it's 6ft

0-0 again next week then.