Vancvillan

It's 12 minutes into a LC round 2 game featuring mostly our second and third string. Haven't you got somewhere else you could be?

My first thought on seeing one of their players crunch into one of ours was "oh shit". Then I saw it was Lansbury.

Nyland?

This, this and this. We were crying out for a clinical striker who could get on the end of hopeful (and occasionally quality) balls into the box. Trez did it two or three times and it made scoring look easy. It's a genuine ability to read the game - yet people seem to think it's just luck.

Wow, this is the first time Canadians get better streaming service than our cousins to the south. DAZN shows every premier league game + champions league, Europa, English league Cup plus serie A and la Liga. It's 150 Canuck dollars for a year. The commentary isn't North American either. I'm posting partially in case any new arrivals in Canada read this, but also to gloat a bit since out Netflix sucked for years and we haven't long had HBO access. Viva le resistance!

Honestly you have to go back a long way to find a time when players didn't dive or weren't rude to the ref. I'm 40 and I can always remember it in one variant or another. Maybe it's more frequent or cynical now. I can also remember me and my Dad being chased by opposition fans when I was 8 after a game, so harking back to "the good old days" is really a bit of a misnomer. Football's always had its issues. Southgate is just one of many.

Except this makes no sense - "checking out" Walker?

Yeah, Jack is at least somewhat debatable for a start, but AA should have been one of the first names in the team sheet.

It's incredibly frustrating. Just get him on the pitch to draw some fouls around the area. Even without 14 acres of Harry McGuire's forehead to aim at, we'd still get more joy from set pieces.

It's the kind of game where you need a bit of magic to unlock the defense. Shame we haven't got anyone like that on the bench...

Dean Smith: "You're a once in a generation talent at the club you supported as a boy. Stay and we'll show our ambition and build a team around you." Jack: "Sounds great boss. Who you brining in up top?" DS: "Callum Wilson from Bournemouth."

You're not soppy. There's a bunch of stuff to unpack here - much of which reasonable people can disagree about - but I'll tell you where I'm sitting (which is not without contradiction or cognitive dissonance). I'm definitely not trying to persuade anyone here, and I completely respect your stance. I eat meat. I could become a vegan (and deeply considered it) but after a lot of reading, listening and thinking I came to feel that while it may be a method of harm reduction, it doesn't remove me from suffering inflicted on other sentient beings (Robert C Jones is a vegan philosopher and interesting voice on this subject). I could drone on about this (for example, the wheat crop in western Australia is responsible for the poisoning of over 1 billion mice per annum) but let's just say being vegan doesn't mean no dead animals. For some people this is the best way to reduce harm,and I both appreciate and respect that choice. Given that I eat meat, I try to be conscious of where it comes from. The majority of my family's animal protein comes from my in-laws hobby farm where I see the cows range, graze and swim on an acreage run under principles of regenerative agriculture. No tilling of soil (which kills a lot of animals), no packing animals in - but at the end of the year they are sent to slaughter. While the animals are (by any western standard) humanely slaughtered, it is worth reading into what those standards are. Let's just say the majority might go clean, but a significant minority to not. This makes it easier for me to live with than supermarket / factory farmed meat, but I'm still not completely comfortable. Which brings me on to wild game. These are animals that live longer and freer than domestic livestock. If they are killed by a hunter that is a life cut short, but for wild animals there are no retirement homes. Death is almost certainly coming from either famine, disease or predation, and none of those are quick and merciful (do yourself a favour and don't learn about how wolves feed in elk and moose calves). There is no joy in the kill for many hunters - I wouldn't go as far as to call it regret, but a sorrow and a very strong connection to the tragedy of the act is a lot more common than I think many non-hunters would perceive. Most people cry on their first hunt, and many continue to have a great deal of internal conflict from then on. There is often a feeling a triumph in that they may have been tracking that animal for weeks or months (hunting in most cases is actually incredibly difficult), but I do not think that the majority of hunters have a blood lust. Obviously there are pricks in every community, but in my experience they are a small percentage. So why use guns? It's a fair question. For literally all of the hunters I've spent time with, an ethical (quick and clean) kill is paramount. A 30 calibre bullet to the lungs of anything outside of Africa is going to cause death before the animal feels much more than the shock of being hit. Let's go down the road of levelling the playing field some more though. Bow hunting is popular, but compound bows (with cams to increase the energy applied to the arrow) are often used - again in the name of making a quick kill, so there a technical advantage there. Recurve bows (traditional bow - think Hunger Games) transfer much less energy to the arrow so are a much trickier tool to use consistently if the aim is a kill shot. In either case, it's fairly typical that the animal will run after being shot, so you're tracking a blood trail rather than watching an animal drop. There's a reason bows aren't used in slaughter houses, though this is still a much quicker death than wild animals typically experience. If you really want to see a human spear, stab or wrestle a deer (ungulates being by far the most common source of big game meat) in order to kill it and then eat it, well at that point I have to say I just disagree - I think that's cruel to the animal. Bear hunting is another subject we can chat about if you want to - I leave that for now though. We do have pumas in North America (and there is limited hunting), but no tigers so I can't speak to that. So for me confronting and bring directly involved in the tragedy of taking life to sustain life is somehow cathartic to me - I recognize that no human on earth exists without the death of other sentient beings, and this is the way that right now (and I'm open to change) brings me the most peace in terms of minimizing that suffering.

Hunting. Though I'd be quick to point out that 99% of hunters where I live (Canada) happily abide by laws that are much closer to Australia's than the US. In fact "a loaded weapon has no place within city limits" is a pretty common phrase, and they get very pissed when people caught with illegal firearms aren't jailed for multiple years. From my limited exposure with the hunting community in the US I'd say it's somewhat true there too. Whether or not you think hunting is necessary is another point of discussion - just keep in mind that while it's a sport for posh clearings in the woods in red coats in England, it's culturally very different in North America and has roots in a much more working class, "fill you freezer" mentality. That said, I'm happy to engage in any good faith discussion on any of this - you won't hurt my feelings by disagreeing with me.

No, I'm sure their number one priority is maintaining the integrity of their journalism.

Tammy with the handball too. Cheating words removed.

To be fair it was a bit of a worldy. I distinctly remember my prick of a Chelsea-supporting mate immediately texting "you've been Mounted". He's dead now.

Err... https://gfycat.com/orangewideeyedheifer

Blimey, have you tried viewing this on a phone? I know the Scotch love to count their pennies but the screen is 98.9% ads (and then something about Irn-Bru).

Edited - completely misread your post.

r/woosh

Read the first page, skip the rest and you're up to speed.

We were linked with him in January of this year!

I know I'm just adding to the problem, but statto fact - this thread now has more pages than Elmo and the entire ladies team combined. And I've checked it at least eight times today.

Fair enough - I misread your post, my apologies.

I wouldn't like a lot of things but it doesn't mean I'm going to stand on my lawn with an AR. There's no need to "both sides" this by given this couple any kind of concessions.