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Come on, now you're just guessing and you know it. How many people have ever switched nations between under age levels? Not many. Not to mention he made his debut for the U21s when he was still a minor.

Or the fact he's lived there his entire life. I know quite a few people here in Brum with two Irish parents and as much as their parents don't like it, most of them consider themselves English. Some of them don't, but then that comes back to it being Jack's own decision.

Maybe he played for Ireland because when he first started he was 14 and like a good 14 year old he did what he was told. Then he didn't change over because he was already involved in the Irish youth setup where there is a lot of overlap between the different age levels. AFAIK it is rare that a player would change nationality between different under age levels but it's much more common between U21 and senior levels.

Irish blood is a terrible argument. What makes his blood Irish? If blood can't change nationality by a person being born and living their entire life in a country then surely there's no such thing as Irish blood. All human blood is therefore African. He declared for Ireland when he was 14 and under his parents' supervision. Declaring what nation he plays for at full International level is a decision for himself. Listen to him. Does he sound Irish to anyone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MCyn0b4XAA All that said, I'd rather he played for Ireland due to the fact all regular England players invariably end up at one of the rich clubs.

It exists in an exchange between a United academy graduate and ex Arsenal player on loan from Barcelona.

I'd say that's unlikely. The police check all relevant mobile phone records in the event of a serious motor accident, and I'm sure if it was a factor, it would have been reported and the driver would have got a much stiffer sentence. Can they check something as specific as if your phone is unlocked (and for example, you're reading a text) at the time of impact? I didn't think they could and I was under the impression it's quite hard to prove phone use without visual proof but I genuinely don't know.

I think he could well have been on his phone. Link. He didn't even claim to have misjudged the bike's speed, he didn't see it (or the car behind it) at all.

I thought it was #fuckbringpolite Either way I don't think that kind of hashtag is a textbook example of the behaviour of someone with confidence issues.

It looks like it hurt for sure. There wasn't even one of those condescending biker's shakes of the head judging by the lack of movement from his bright red helmet. I would imagine he was dead by the time he came to a stop. Yeah, probably snapped his neck on landing Maybe. I thought Trent was saying he was killed by the initial impact, but it could easily have been the bouncing on the floor. I'm never sure with crashes like this. You see some high speed collisions where people survive, at least for a bit.

It looks like it hurt for sure. There wasn't even one of those condescending biker's shakes of the head judging by the lack of movement from his bright red helmet.

I think this is where we disagree then. I don't think he'd have made his turn if the bike was going 60 from the exact same point it was at when he started turning. How much extra time would it have given him? The bike hit the front of his car.

In this scenario whoever is responsible for the child (possibly the child itself) is responsible for it being in the middle of the road and the biker would have the same amount of blame he has in the real crash. But because there is less total responsibility for having a child (no test and licence) the biker is "mainly responsible" and in a legal context he's breaking the law at the time so would be very, very jailed. In the actual real scenario both parties are responsible for their vehicles (tested and licenced) and both of them made bad errors that caused the collision. IMO (although I've now been made aware it's contrary to fact) turning across oncoming traffic (presumably without looking) had a greater contribution to that particular crash than the biker's speed did. The turn was so slow and badly timed that if the bike was going 60 at the point the car turned he'd have still hit him (IMO obviously, I'm open to being persuaded by diagrams and calculations ). Legally, the driver made an error and the biker was willingly breaking the law so if he was immortal he'd have lost his licence and probably gone to jail. But the other guy still turned slowly across clearly oncoming traffic.

Thanks for clarifying. I thought it was a matter that was up for debate (hence the IMO in my OP) but you've put me dead straight there. That's that then.

Alright then mate, the driver had nothing "out of his control" impeding his sight unless light doesn't travel in straight lines in Norfolk. Maybe the front pillar was in the way or he had a satnav in the middle of the windscreen but there was no bends or other vehicles between him and the bike when he started turning.

I'm pretty sure it's Alex Song.

The driver had nothing at all impeding his sight and started to turn when the bike was easily visible from his position.

I'd not seen that high five fail with captain Jack before. Brilliant. There are some great highlights in that, particularly the goal against Stoke which is one of the most underrated goals in PL history IMO.

The driver is mainly responsible for causing a crash, the biker is responsible for causing his own death IMO.

Yeah I can vouch for them too, they're excellent. I think you get a choice of free stuff when you use a referral code, for some bizarre reason (somewhere between apathy and curiosity) I chose protein bread. Don't choose protein bread.

Muscle Food are really good but for the past few months I've been using FreshFoodGuru.co.uk. Mainly because they do 5kg of Dutch Chicken Breast Fillets for £20! but also because they sell piedmontese steaks. I buy an absolutely obscene amount of meat.

In weightlifting terms we could probably put out the strongest 6 aside team in the league. Everton are the only team that could get close. Maybe Chelsea too at a push. I propose we petition the PL to change the remaining fixtures to 6 man powerlifting contests.

I think remembering you forgot to stop topping up your swimming pool while you're playing tennis is the most middle class story I've ever heard.

Uncle Creepy's hand from a few days ago. Nasty.

Those thense mother ****.