Houseoftomorrow Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) These are Villa related stats, but I couldn't figure out where else to put them: By my count, Villa are 4-2-3 this season when scoring the first goal, having lost on the last three occasions. The 2013/14 signings (including loans) have played 6,152 minutes this season. Bacuna and Luna account for 59% of those minutes. Taking injuries into consideration, Villa's new signings are on pace to play 7,663 minutes this season, last years signings played 15,971 Edited March 31, 2014 by Houseoftomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Swansea have benefited from no fewer than 8 own goals in the Premier League this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Sunderland (3) have scored more goals at The Sports Direct Arena St James' Park than Newcastle (2) have in 2014. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Sunderland (3) have scored more goals at The Sports Direct Arena St James' Park than Newcastle (2) have in 2014. and typically 1 was against Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted April 24, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Participation in the Europa League group stage, if anything (and contrary to popular opinion), does not appear to hurt a team's position in the PL.Raw data Previous Position Participation Teams/seasons Finishes 4th Y Tot (11-12) 5th 5th Y Eve (08-09) 8th MnC (09-10) 3rd Tot (10-11) 4th New (11-12) 16th 6th N AVl (08-09) 6th AVl (09-10) 9th Lvp (10-11) 8th 7th Y Ful (08-09) 12th Lvp (09-10) 6th 7th N Eve (10-11) 7th Eve (11-12) 6th SummaryParticipated in Europa LeagueImproved: 3Declined: 4Did not participate in Europa LeagueImproved: 1Declined: 2Potential EL teams is defined as clubs in top 7 who don't participate in CL group stage or qualifying. Non-participation means not making group stage whether due to elimination in qualifiers or cup results taking European positions from the league. Edited April 24, 2014 by leviramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Participation in the Europa League group stage, if anything (and contrary to popular opinion), does not appear to hurt a team's position in the PL. Raw data Previous Position Participation Teams/seasons Finishes 4th Y Tot (11-12) 5th 5th Y Eve (08-09) 8th MnC (09-10) 3rd Tot (10-11) 4th 6th N AVl (08-09) 6th AVl (09-10) 9th Lvp (10-11) 8th 7th Y Ful (08-09) 12th Lvp (09-10) 6th 7th N Eve (10-11) 7th Eve (11-12) 6th Summary Participated in Europa LeagueImproved: 3Declined: 3 Did not participate in Europa LeagueImproved: 1Declined: 2 Potential EL teams is defined as clubs in top 7 who don't participate in CL group stage or qualifying. Non-participation means not making group stage whether due to elimination in qualifiers or cup results taking European positions from the league. Not convincing in the slightest, sorry. Would Aston Villa be more like Tottenham, Everton or Fulham or Manchester City, Liverpool and Tottenham? I suggest that Manchester City and Liverpool were okay because they could afford a huge squad with depth. Everton and Fulham could not and dropped. Also, where is Newcastle? Swansea? Their poor seasons in the PL followed Europa League participation. Why? They don't have massive squads. Edited April 24, 2014 by Con Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Likewise you've got to go back to before the Premier League was founded to find an example of a club who hadn't qualified for Europe in the previous season winning the title. Liverpool's 'advantage' can't have been that big or why hasn't it happened more often? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted April 24, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2014 Missed Newcastle in the rundown... will edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted April 24, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2014 As for Swansea, they're omitted because a) we don't know where they'll be and they didn't finish top 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted April 24, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2014 It's a small sample, but most clubs in the top 7 one year will finish in a lower position the next.2008-09 (2 improve, 4 decline)1st (Man Utd) -> 2nd (Decline)2nd (Liverpool) -> 6th (Decline)3rd (Chelsea) -> 1st (Improve)4th (Arsenal) -> 3rd (Improve)5th (Everton) -> 8th (Decline)6th (Villa) -> 6th7th (Fulham) -> 12th (Decline)2009-10 (3 improve, 4 decline)1st (Chelsea) -> 2nd (decline)2nd (Man Utd) -> 1st (improve)3rd (Arsenal) -> 4th (decline)4th (Spurs) -> 5th (decline)5th (Man City) -> 3rd (improve)6th (Villa) -> 9th (decline)7th (Liverpool) -> 6th (improve)2010-11 (3 improve, 3 decline)1st (Man Utd) -> 2nd (decline)2nd (Chelsea) -> 6th (decline)3rd (Man City) -> 1st (improve)4th (Arsenal) -> 3rd (improve)5th (Spurs) -> 4th (improve)6th (Liverpool) -> 8th (decline)7th (Everton) -> 7th2011-12 (3 improve, 4 decline)1st (Man City) -> 2nd (decline)2nd (Man Utd) -> 1st (improve)3rd (Arsenal) -> 4th (decline)4th (Spurs) -> 5th (decline)5th (Newcastle) -> 16th (decline)6th (Chelsea) -> 3rd (improve)7th (Everton) -> 6th (improveSo among top 7 teams in the period, 11 improved their position the next year vs. 15 declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 The Championship is the 4th most watched league in Europe in terms of stadium attendance behind the big 3. That really surprises me. I thought the Italian league would have a higher attendance average. I know the Italian league is not at it's peak like it was in the 1990s, but still...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Italy suffers from shit stadium syndrome. The match day experience isn't great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Yeah I guess that is a factor. But you have 2 teams who play in the San Siro which is a 5 star UEFA rated stadium (hosts champions league finals) you have 2 teams which play in the Stadio Olympico which is also a 5 star UEFA rated stadium. And you have Juventus smart new ground which will host this years Europa League final. Plus Napolis's arena. That is 7 clubs or 1/3 of the league who play in very impressive stadiums. The Championship can't compete with that, to me it is still a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted April 25, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2014 Average attendances so farInter: 44,382Napoli: 42,112Roma: 38,542Juventus: 38,149Milan: 37,985Lazio: 32,610Fiorentina: 31,414Sampdoria: 22,301Hellas Verona: 21,220Bologna: 20,335Genoa: 20,236Torino: 16,624Catania: 14,864Udinese: 14,344 at one stadium/9,750 at anotherAtalanta: 13,916Sassuolo: 13,239Parma: 12,765Livorno: 10,872Chievo: 8,549Cagliari: 5,500 at one stadium/4,692 at anotherSassulo play their games 15 miles from their main stadium, which is too small. Udinese and Cagliari each played some home games in a stadium in Trieste (where Triestina (currently in Serie D)) due to renovations of their stadia. For Cagliari, this meant playing home games a 17 hour drive away from home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 37985 average for AC Milan. Wow Altogether now. Empty seats my lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Yeah I guess that is a factor. But you have 2 teams who play in the San Siro which is a 5 star UEFA rated stadium (hosts champions league finals) you have 2 teams which play in the Stadio Olympico which is also a 5 star UEFA rated stadium. And you have Juventus smart new ground which will host this years Europa League final. Plus Napolis's arena. That is 7 clubs or 1/3 of the league who play in very impressive stadiums. The Championship can't compete with that, to me it is still a surprise. 5 star just means it ticks boxes, most of them are still shit. I get the impression things are just different on the continent. I went to a Villa game with someone from a different country, he was shocked that there were so many women and children in the stadium. Ticket prices may be shit here, but on the whole it's very much a family thing rather than just blokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 San Siro and Stadio Olimpico are not shit stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Aren't they in poor states of repair? A mate of mine went to the Stadio Delle Alpi once and said it was an utter shithole. It was only built in 1990 and I think that may have been a five star stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I don't think it was, but I may be wrong. Just had a look at the list of 5 star UEFA stadiums. All the ones you'd expect apart from Ibrox and Vicente Calderon. Surprised to see those 2 there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) San Siro and Stadio Olimpico are not shit stadiums. I've not been to either myself. But I know a bunch of Milan fans who've been and they say it's a complete shit hole. It's just big and ticks boxes, but apparently the state of the place is appalling. It's the case with a lot of place in Italy supposedly, which is one reason a lot of clubs apply for new stadiums. It's no shocker Juve's attendances dwarf what they were at the Delle Alpi, because it was shite. Edited April 26, 2014 by kurtsimonw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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