Big_John_10 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Comparing the whole of last season to this one shows no improvement. My Arse It's a pointless argument after last night because it was an incredible performance. But right there you haven't compared the whole of last season to this one. You've compared the whole of last season to a selected point from this one. I happily admitted there was potential for a lot of improvement but before last night we averaged 1 point a game which was exactly the same as the whole of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 The good news now is that having wiped away the nightmare goal difference deficit, like all the other strugglers just below & above us, we are now only 1 win away from safety, instead of needing a win & a draw. That Goal Difference nightmare has been a millstone around our neck that has tormented us since that awful xmas period. Tonights result was worth 7 pts, no question. Plus we have really cranked up the pressure on Wigan now, plus Sunderland, Newcastle & Norwich know they need to get at least one more result out of their last 3 games & still with some tough fixtures to play. In a worst case scenario we should at least now go to the last game of the season to decide our fate. ( Still a scary prospect) but hopefully it won't come to that! Bottom line though is that this has been a monumental victory for us tonight. Key for me - is Wigan are now going into the next two games as must wins - hopefully the pressure will tell on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Comparing the whole of last season to this one shows no improvement. My Arse It's a pointless argument after last night because it was an incredible performance. But right there you haven't compared the whole of last season to this one. You've compared the whole of last season to a selected point from this one. I happily admitted there was potential for a lot of improvement but before last night we averaged 1 point a game which was exactly the same as the whole of last season. blah b blah b blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 blah b blah b blah blah blah When you strip away all the bogus stats, yes, that's what your argument amounts to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 30, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 30, 2013 VillaCas, I'm on your side. The improvement since the xmas period is a valid argument to show improvement this season and potential for future improvement (as opposed to McLeish's constant decline) But to be fair, in that post you have CLEARLY compared the whole of last season to only PART of this season, which is exactly what you were saying you weren't doing. Let it go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Anyway, getting away from the bogus stats, the pressure is now all on Wigan. They have two absolute must win games coming up or they are likely to find themselves hopelessly adrift. I think if they don't win these two, and particularly if we can get a win at Norwich, we can watch the relegation battle unfold as interested observers, not participants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 VillaCas, I'm on your side. The improvement since the xmas period is a valid argument to show improvement this season and potential for future improvement (as opposed to McLeish's constant decline) But to be fair, in that post you have CLEARLY compared the whole of last season to only PART of this season, which is exactly what you were saying you weren't doing. Let it go. lol, you're right - I think I'm a little sleep-deprived. I went to the pub after the match and then watched the full 3.5 hour recording of MNF (hated Gary Neville as a player but what a **** excellent pundit) when I got in and then was so excited that I couldn't sleep. My voice is shot to pieces from celebrating and abusing Di Canio. TBH my argument has never been that this season as a whole is better than last season as a whole, just that under McLeish we were getting worse and under Lambert we are clearly getting better I'm in such a good mood I don't care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 30, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 30, 2013 Anyway, getting away from the bogus stats, the pressure is now all on Wigan. They have two absolute must win games coming up or they are likely to find themselves hopelessly adrift. I think if they don't win these two, and particularly if we can get a win at Norwich, we can watch the relegation battle unfold as interested observers, not participants. Yep. Even if we get no more points, they need to win 2 of their last 4 games to stay up (or at least win one and draw 2 considering GD) That's a big ask in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Anyway, getting away from the bogus stats, the pressure is now all on Wigan. They have two absolute must win games coming up or they are likely to find themselves hopelessly adrift. I think if they don't win these two, and particularly if we can get a win at Norwich, we can watch the relegation battle unfold as interested observers, not participants. haha - Top half form this year - nothing bogus about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_shere Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 LOCK THE THREAD! Ok not quite yet, but that was a huge step up to survival. We must fancy taking something away from Norwich. If we match or better Wigan this weekend we got to be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Anyway, getting away from the bogus stats, the pressure is now all on Wigan. They have two absolute must win games coming up or they are likely to find themselves hopelessly adrift. I think if they don't win these two, and particularly if we can get a win at Norwich, we can watch the relegation battle unfold as interested observers, not participants. Win at Norwich - Its over IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Work still to be done. A loss at Norwich, and Wigan and Newcastle win, suddenly it's out of our hands and we could require something at Wigan in the last game again. Hope Lambert is telling the players that. Remember the post-Anfield results! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Work still to be done. A loss at Norwich, and Wigan and Newcastle win, suddenly it's out of our hands and we could require something at Wigan in the last game again. Hope Lambert is telling the players that. Remember the post-Anfield results! 3 Games - 1 win is all we need - the finish line is in sight.forget the other permutations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 A loss at Norwich, and Wigan and Newcastle win, suddenly it's out of our hands and we could require something at Wigan in the last game again. So it would still be in our hands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted April 30, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 30, 2013 unless wigan can put together 9 points in 4 games then a win at norwich should see us safe. they'll certainly have the confidence thst they can score goals if we get turned over at norwich though we will be right back in the shit so my vote stays as unsure till we do norwich by a couple of goals and wigan, newcastle and sunderland all lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) A loss at Norwich, and Wigan and Newcastle win, suddenly it's out of our hands and we could require something at Wigan in the last game again. So it would still be in our hands May have figured it out wrong, don't think so though? Wigan would be 2 points behind us with a game in hand? Newcastle on 40, us on 37. Both with a one goal better goal difference if the result in all three games is 1-0. Look I don't mind the fans celebrating a bit, but I just don't want the players relaxing just yet. As I don't have a direct line to the Villa squad, this is where I'll be posting my worried thoughts --- Just realised what you meant, what a fool. I don't want to even need a point in that game, I couldn't handle it! Edited April 30, 2013 by Tomaszk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 As far as I am concerned, I was over the moon with last nights result BUt we beat Liverpool 0-3 and I thought we had turned the corner and we had not.So I will wait for the Norwich result before I think of celebrating. The things in our favour are,The lads should be full of confidence and our win will do absouloutly zilch for Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 We're blue balling, but not ready to blow our load just yet...One more win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodigan Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 lots still to do, but the players must believe that they can do it... and i must say, PL has always been very careful to emphasize that not getting unduly upset with big defeats goes hand in hand with not getting carried away with our wins... roll on saturday, but lets not have it be like fulham - one that we should have won after a good previous performance, but one that we came out really flat for, and ended up throwing away two points.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 cant see Wigan getting more than 8 points from last 4 games so I think 4 points will do it for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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