kurtsimonw Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Defensively good for a change. Very little going forward, Keane seemed to be the only player who was finding space and making something happen so I dread to think how we'll be with him gone and Bent injured. Albrighton, Bannan and Gardner were pretty awful. Missed Stan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Its the Championship next season for us Does RL even know that sides get relegated in the Premier League? Unless they've changed the rule to more than six teams getting relegated we won't be one of them. Another game gone another point clearer of the bottom three Oh well thats alright then. Hoo-rah for Big Eck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 A nil-nil bore draw at the DW, out-passed and out-possessed by Wigan. Heady days The BBC are showing possession at 50% each Yeah I think it evened out toward the end although if it had the action areas like sky it might not be quite so kind. Saying that this is the headline on the BBC match report, "Wigan remain rooted to the bottom of the Premier League after they failed to capitalise on their domination over Aston Villa at the DW Stadium." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Nice to see Cuellar looking fairly solid again, our back 4 has certainly benefited from having him around. At least the changes enforced through circumstance are doing us a few favours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Nice to see Cuellar looking fairly solid again, our back 4 has certainly benefited from having him around. At least the changes enforced through circumstance are doing us a few favours. True, we have looked a little more solid with him around, but we still give away so many corners. Is there a way of comparing the corners conceded by each team, 'cause I'm sure our numbers aren't normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Shocking stuff, summed up by Heskey on before Nzog and Ireland. Get him out of our team please he is killing us. Quite worried now, especially if we don't win next weekend. Hope the bent injury isn't too seriious but he looked in a lot of pain. We are going to miss Keane badly too, he was MOTM for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Nice to see Cuellar looking fairly solid again, our back 4 has certainly benefited from having him around. At least the changes enforced through circumstance are doing us a few favours. True, we have looked a little more solid with him around, but we still give away so many corners. Is there a way of comparing the corners conceded by each team, 'cause I'm sure our numbers aren't normal. I was saying this last week, I seriously think we aren't that bad at defending corners it's that we concede so damn many of them. I'd like to see a percentage comparison against other teams of corners conceded to goals conceded from corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Complete dross. Cuellar man of the match, 2nd game running. Go Carlos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted February 25, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 25, 2012 Good draw, Wigan is a tough place to go. Defense were magnificent. Well worth making the trip when we earn a point like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted February 25, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 25, 2012 Just home from the match now. That was absolute dross. My first game of the season, although I've seen most matches by other means, and it'll be my last until McLeish is gone. We lacked shape. Right from the outset our full backs were completely exposed as the midfield and forwards were so narrow. On the rare occasions we attacked players seemed scared to leave their positions or overlap. It was hard to tell specifically where Keane, Gabby and Albrightin had been asked to play. Or Bannan and Gardner for that matter. We lacked invention. Nobody knows what to do with the ball. Probably because the complete lack of movement means there's never anybody in space. Unlike Wigan who always seemed to have a man over. We lacked strength. We were getting outmuscled on so many occasions, players just bouncing off the Wigan men as they piled towards out goal. We lacked a plan B. Or a plan A for that matter. When it became clear we were being overrun in midfield the first change was made after close to 70 mins (I think). Albrighton was the right man to take off, but for Heskey? Jesus wept. He's useless as a striker and that's his actual position, so to persist with playing him on the wing beggars belief. We lacked in every area of the field, in every position. The team selection was bizarre (I'd have had NZogbia for Albrighton and Ireland for Bannan from the start) - I get that we have injuries but to have such an inexperienced midfield pairing is criminal. We lacked, and continue to lack, a manager with any sort of nous or tactical ability. I'm absolutely flabbergasted by what I've seen today. Our loyal travelling fans deserve better. They were superb today. Proud history, shite future. Sack McLeish my Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cule4life Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Good god ive just got back from the Irish Bar in town so its 2:47am in the morning here. I must say how EVERYONE laughed at the result when it come up as we were watching Rugby on the other TV. A relegation candidate if not this year then defo next year as to watch Villa are painful. Thank god i follow Barcelona i suppose but still when your fond of a club its not east watching them be so awful under a shocking manager and under an even more shocking chairman. Mcleish **** off because nobody wants you here. LOL Heskey on before Ireland and Zog !!!! Ireland and Zog move on as you deserve much better ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cule4life Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 "We played brilliantly at the back. We had a gameplan and we utilised it brilliantly." **** off McLeish. We have a good squad. You are shit manager. So pissed off right now. Are you joking? He didn't say that? Nah he didn't say that....yet. But I have predicted his bullshit post match comments. Ive just burst out laughing reading that ! MCLEISH is the worst premiership manager in years he even makes old Mick look good !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Before the January transfer window i stated that we needed to bring another striker in just in case something happened to Bent and before anyone shouts 'Keane' i mean a striker that will actually finnish the season with us. We are now left with the distinct possibility of Heskey playing until the end of the season up front especially with Gabby not exactly 100% fit. We really are in a lot of trouble now with both Keane and Bent out. Concerning today's game, not really surprised at the result, as he yet again failed to pick our best team and he really has to go now Randy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Good draw, Wigan is a tough place to go. Defense were magnificent. Well worth making the trip when we earn a point like that. I thought you were supposed to write in italics when you are taking the piss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cule4life Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Bannan and Albrighton instead of Ireland and N Zogbia ??? Absolute Genius ! Its actually funny when you think about it ? How **** retarded is that ginger word removed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted February 25, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 25, 2012 Good draw, Wigan is a tough place to go. Defense were magnificent. Well worth making the trip when we earn a point like that. I thought you were supposed to write in italics when you are taking the piss! Nah I had to at least make it sound like I was serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Just back from the fixture. The positives. Defence much better without Dunne. We defended lots of corners well We left on 86 mins when Heskey skimmed the corner flag, and flew home The service in Pizza Hut before the game was quite good The negatives. Everything else Terrible tactics, awful match McLeish got absolute pelters all 2nd half Not sure it helps, seems to affect the players too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Nice to see Cuellar looking fairly solid again, our back 4 has certainly benefited from having him around. At least the changes enforced through circumstance are doing us a few favours. True, we have looked a little more solid with him around, but we still give away so many corners. Is there a way of comparing the corners conceded by each team, 'cause I'm sure our numbers aren't normal. I was saying this last week, I seriously think we aren't that bad at defending corners it's that we concede so damn many of them. I'd like to see a percentage comparison against other teams of corners conceded to goals conceded from corners. Found what we're looking for.... The columns are: Team Goals scored from corners Goals conceded from corners The aggregate The total corners conceded. As you can see, we're shit at all scoring and conceding. Only Wolves have conceded more corners than us, yet have only 6 goals against as opposed to our 11. We're also the only team not to score from a corner! ManC... 12... 2... +10... 118... corners conceded WBA.... 6... 1... +5... 152 ManU... 7... 3... +4... 105 Nrwc... 7... 3... +4... 159 Chel... 4... 0... +4... 86 Evet... 5... 2... +3... 119 Sund... 4... 1... +3... 147 Wolv... 6... 5... +1... 178 Spur... 5... 4... +1... 126 Bbun... 8... 8... 0... 172 Stke... 4... 5... -1... 168 Arse... 3... 4... -1... 98 Lpoo... 5... 7... -2... 99 Fham... 3... 5... -2... 134 Newc... 1... 3... -2... 126 QPR.... 3... 6... -3... 151 Swan... 3... 6... -3... 156 Wgan... 3... 6... -3... 153 Bton... 3... 10... -7... 172 AVil... 0... 11... -11... 173 Apologies for the formatting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Good draw, Wigan is a tough place to go. Defense were magnificent. Well worth making the trip when we earn a point like that. I thought you were supposed to write in italics when you are taking the piss! Nah I had to at least make it sound like I was serious Knew you were taking the piss. No sane Villa fan could right that and mean it! LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Nice to see Cuellar looking fairly solid again, our back 4 has certainly benefited from having him around. At least the changes enforced through circumstance are doing us a few favours. True, we have looked a little more solid with him around, but we still give away so many corners. Is there a way of comparing the corners conceded by each team, 'cause I'm sure our numbers aren't normal. I was saying this last week, I seriously think we aren't that bad at defending corners it's that we concede so damn many of them. I'd like to see a percentage comparison against other teams of corners conceded to goals conceded from corners. Found what we're looking for.... The columns are: Team Goals scored from corners Goals conceded from corners The aggregate The total corners conceded. As you can see, we're shit at all scoring and conceding. Only Wolves have conceded more corners than us, yet have only 6 goals against as opposed to our 11. We're also the only team not to score from a corner! ManC... 12... 2... +10... 118... corners conceded WBA.... 6... 1... +5... 152 ManU... 7... 3... +4... 105 Nrwc... 7... 3... +4... 159 Chel... 4... 0... +4... 86 Evet... 5... 2... +3... 119 Sund... 4... 1... +3... 147 Wolv... 6... 5... +1... 178 Spur... 5... 4... +1... 126 Bbun... 8... 8... 0... 172 Stke... 4... 5... -1... 168 Arse... 3... 4... -1... 98 Lpoo... 5... 7... -2... 99 Fham... 3... 5... -2... 134 Newc... 1... 3... -2... 126 QPR.... 3... 6... -3... 151 Swan... 3... 6... -3... 156 Wgan... 3... 6... -3... 153 Bton... 3... 10... -7... 172 AVil... 0... 11... -11... 173 Apologies for the formatting. So to sum up, we concede the second highest amount of corners, concede almost twice as many goals as any other team from corners, score NO GOALS from a corner, have no set piece specialist as such, an isolated and no injured front man, shit football and a sever lack of attacking intent and it's not hard to see why we're genuinely rubbish. McLeish has to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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