Stevo985 Posted July 30, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2012 **** hell, mate. You don't do yourself any favours do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 30, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 30, 2012 Racism should not be an 8 game ban. Racism is bad but it's just words at the end of the day. 8 game bans should be reserved for violent assaults and what not. So if you were playing football and you had running fued with a player you'd sooner racially abuse them the clatter them? As it is only words would you racially abuse a player or person? If not why not if it's only words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Coming from an Ethnic Minority, As a Sikh Racism should not be tolerated, thier is no space for it in football, so if it's okay for John Terry to say it on the pitch, that means it was okay for the Spurs fans to do the same to Sol Campbell, it also means Monkey chants are allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I didn't say it was okay just that 8 games is too harsh. When Pedro Mendes got forearm smashed and knocked out the player who did that got 8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 30, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 30, 2012 You appear to have missed my questions TRS-T. I will add another one for you, as in your view "its just words" do you think racism should be a punishable offence? If so what punishment do you think is fitting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Racism should not be an 8 game ban. Racism is bad but it's just words at the end of the day. 8 game bans should be reserved for violent assaults and what not. :shock: Can of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMFy Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I didn't say it was okay just that 8 games is too harsh. When Pedro Mendes got forearm smashed and knocked out the player who did that got 8 games. I just don't **** understand this guy. Desperate for the Noses to play in a league above their standard just so he can have a derby match most people are embarrassed to associate themselves with, and now sympathiser of John Terry and racism in the game. I just don't **** understand the logic. Is there any? I suspect TRS-T may be the sort of 'fan' that has a sizeable collection of Stone Island clothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Tom Adeyemi was crying after the racist abuse at Anfield. "Just words" my arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I didn't say it was okay just that 8 games is too harsh. When Pedro Mendes got forearm smashed and knocked out the player who did that got 8 games. I just don't **** understand this guy. Desperate for the Noses to play in a league above their standard just so he can have a derby match most people are embarrassed to associate themselves with, and now sympathiser of John Terry and racism in the game. I just don't **** understand the logic. Is there any? I suspect TRS-T may be the sort of 'fan' that has a sizeable collection of Stone Island clothing... I strongly disagree with 99% of what TRS-T says regarding racism. That said, I do think he has a point regarding the Pedro Mendes situation. The 2 shouldn't quite be on the same level as far as I'm concerned. That's not to say 8 games (for Terry & co) is too harsh necessarily, but just that I don't think it should carry quite the same punishment as hospitalising someone. Perhaps whatshisface should has just been banned for a little longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMFy Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 How about considering an 8 game ban is not enough for INTENTIONALLY hospitalising someone? What about Roy Keane's assault on Alfe Inge Haaland? There is no excuse for racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I'd certainly go along with that. This vastly over-simplifies it, but I'd sooner be the subject of racism than end up in hospital looking at the sole of my right foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copey11 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Why do we have to discern between the penalties anyway? The bans serve as a deterrent to specific kinds of behavior, and it seems in this case the FA deems racial abuse and violent conduct equally disgraceful and thus deserving of 8 match bans. I think that is actually admirable, regardless of whether it's the right number of matches, to attempt to take not only violence out of the game, but other elements that are disgraceful and have no place in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I didn't say it was okay just that 8 games is too harsh. When Pedro Mendes got forearm smashed and knocked out the player who did that got 8 games. I just don't **** understand this guy. Desperate for the Noses to play in a league above their standard just so he can have a derby match most people are embarrassed to associate themselves with, and now sympathiser of John Terry and racism in the game. I just don't **** understand the logic. Is there any? I suspect TRS-T may be the sort of 'fan' that has a sizeable collection of Stone Island clothing... I doubt it . TRS-T is teenage black kid who attends King Edward's school . He is just a very effective troller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 rio has been charged over his choc ice comments shit way to start to the season, they need to sort this quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 You appear to have missed my questions TRS-T. I will add another one for you, as in your view "its just words" do you think racism should be a punishable offence? If so what punishment do you think is fitting? I would say 3 or 4 game ban. Like I say, 8 games should be for like violent assaults (Pedro Mendes or Pepe.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Tom Adeyemi was crying after the racist abuse at Anfield. "Just words" my arse. That was a bit of a overreaction tbf. An idiot in the crowd shouts something and he starts crying in the middle of the match? You'd think as a footballer he would be used to getting abuse off the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 What was it you shouted at him again? (I kid, ofcourse) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 31, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2012 Tom Adeyemi was crying after the racist abuse at Anfield. "Just words" my arse. That was a bit of a overreaction tbf. An idiot in the crowd shouts something and he starts crying in the middle of the match? You'd think as a footballer he would be used to getting abuse off the crowd.And therein lies your complete lack of understanding of the differences between mere abuse and racist abuse. Until you can 'get' the difference, w.r.t. punishments etc, your comments I'm afraid will carry zero weight on the matter. Your posts are making you look at best out-dated and ill-informed on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMFy Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Tom Adeyemi was crying after the racist abuse at Anfield. "Just words" my arse. That was a bit of a overreaction tbf. An idiot in the crowd shouts something and he starts crying in the middle of the match? You'd think as a footballer he would be used to getting abuse off the crowd. So you believe abuse is acceptable? So, say someone called your mother a spasticated spunk bucket as she walked down the street, purely as an example. I wouldn't condone that sort of thing myself as it is offensive and completely unnecessary. Nothing good can come from it whatsoever. I'd imagine you be disappointed and distressed by it. But I have to ask, what would your reaction be to that? And how would it differ to shouting pointless offensive and racist abuse at a football match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 31, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2012 Its only words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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