villa4europe Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 to be fair it does form the basis of an arguement when someone next suggests having a stay away protest (which im sure has been said before now) if theya re counting ST holders as being there anyway then its even more pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 i base it on the number of times you are told its a sell out when it blatantly isnt, most arsenal games for example Agree. I've seen 1000s of empty seats dotted around the Emirates and the attendance is always 60,000. The Sky money is obviously more important than attendees. If that ever drops significantly, in the UK and abroad, there'll be a lot of belt tightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Looking at the newcastle side today it really was a poor result No tiote No cabaye thats there main centre mid pairing out? They were using Perch who is a fullback and guthrie in a 4-4-2 and STILL managed to outplay us in midfield when we had Clark Petrov and Bannan as a central 3 we even had Keane dropping deep all the time yet the ball was just being hoofed over there head for the majority of the 2nd half Agent McLeish will take us down it might not be this season but it will happen eventually if he's not given the boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 If we lose against Man City then check this out: SHA (last season): 25 Games Played, 30 points Villa (this season): 25 Games Played, 28 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 If we lose against Man City then check this out: SHA (last season): 25 Games Played, 30 points Villa (this season): 25 Games Played, 28 points :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 If we lose against Man City then check this out: SHA (last season): 25 Games Played, 30 points Villa (this season): 25 Games Played, 28 points My God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 If we lose against Man City then check this out: SHA (last season): 25 Games Played, 30 points Villa (this season): 25 Games Played, 28 points How can anyone defend the manager or the owner when you read things like this? WTF is wrong with some people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 There is a good chance we will be in another relegation fight. We have a manager who has been relegated more times than he's kept a team up. We have certain players who seem annoyed. A player on loan for 6 games shows more passion and fight than the rest of the team. The attendences keep dropping. We have an owner who is never here. A **** shambles from top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 There is a good chance we will be in another relegation fight. We have a manager who has been relegated more times than he's kept a team up. We have certain players who seem annoyed. A player on loan for 6 games shows more passion and fight than the rest of the team. The attendences keep dropping. We have an owner who is never here. A **** shambles from top to bottom. We wont be relegated. We will just be in dunces half of table. Agree McLeish is rubbish tho and his stats make terrible reading but not even McLeish could relegate us. At least not this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Can't he? Have you seen our run in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Can't he? Have you seen our run in? Yep . Still dont think theres any chance of actual relegation. Granted wins are as rare as rocking horse shit under this manager but theres too many even worse sides in league this season. If McLeish ever somehow managed to relegate this squad this season - one that contains Given , Gabby , Bent etc he would go down in history as the most magnificently shittest person ever to have managed anything ever. It would be such a fantatsically shit achievement it would have to merit some sort of state ceremony or something due to its utterly ridiculous nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 LOL, you might need a new suit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 This manager can achieve the so called 'impossible' which he has shown in the past. If somebody once told me SHA would win the Carling cup I would have laughed in their face. If the same person told me Rangers would not finish in the top 2 I would have told them they know nothing about football. Now this same person is saying Villa are going down. I think its time to listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Im well aware of McLeishs previous form in relegations and well aware of his diabolical win ratio with us. 6 wins in 24 games is embarrasing. 3 wins at home and its now February is indeed ridiculous. but seriously theres no real chance of relegation IMO. But what annoys me is this squad shouldn't be in the dunces half of the league and would not be if we had appointed a better manager. Yes the squad has faults but is not THAT bad . No matter how detrimental McLeish is he wont relegate us this season. We'll just bumble along cira 12th- 16th . We'll win a couple against the dunces and draw a few more. I rmber doing the BBC predictor thing and i had us finishing 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Im well aware of McLeishs previous form in relegations and well aware of his diabolical win ratio with us. 6 wins in 24 games is embarrasing. 3 wins at home and its now February is indeed ridiculous. but seriously theres no real chance of relegation IMO. But what annoys me is this squad shouldn't be in the dunces half of the league and would not be if we had appointed a better manager. Yes the squad has faults but is not THAT bad . No matter how detrimental McLeish is he wont relegate us this season. We'll just bumble along cira 12th- 16th . We'll win a couple against the dunces and draw a few more. I rmber doing the BBC predictor thing and i had us finishing 15th. You say there is no real chance of us getting relegated and then back that up by saying we finish only 3 places above relegation? ....? So that means theres 'No' chance of it happening? What if we lose just a couple of extra games here and there and the likes of Wolves etc. pick up a few extra points against decent opposition. Im telling you now, When it comes to it, these teams below us are gonna start fighting and picking up more points because there managers will motivate them to do so. I dont see our manager instilling any confidence into our players. If I had to liken Mcleish to anything, It would probably be Famine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Randy has completely **** things up. If we keep mcleish we risk going down and i dread to think what next season will bring. On the flipside though i doubt we'd get the manager we need long term at this point in the season. Lerner has made us an extremely unattractive option to managers. Did Doug ever do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Im well aware of McLeishs previous form in relegations and well aware of his diabolical win ratio with us. 6 wins in 24 games is embarrasing. 3 wins at home and its now February is indeed ridiculous. but seriously theres no real chance of relegation IMO. But what annoys me is this squad shouldn't be in the dunces half of the league and would not be if we had appointed a better manager. Yes the squad has faults but is not THAT bad . No matter how detrimental McLeish is he wont relegate us this season. We'll just bumble along cira 12th- 16th . We'll win a couple against the dunces and draw a few more. I rmber doing the BBC predictor thing and i had us finishing 15th. You say there is no real chance of us getting relegated and then back that up by saying we finish only 3 places above relegation? ....? So that means theres 'No' chance of it happening? What if we lose just a couple of extra games here and there and the likes of Wolves etc. pick up a few extra points against decent opposition. Im telling you now, When it comes to it, these teams below us are gonna start fighting and picking up more points because there managers will motivate them to do so. I dont see our manager instilling any confidence into our players. If I had to liken Mcleish to anything, It would probably be Famine. Even so - At the risk of tempting fate - we have too much quality for even relegation expert McLeish to take us down THIS SEASON. There are too many sides that are MUCH worse than us. Confidence or no confidence. Its between the current bottom 5 as to who goes down. As shit as McLeish has been and has been at Birmingham i still dont envisage that changing. This should not be misconstrued as somehow me in anyway rating McLeish . I clearly don't. But do i think we'll go down ? No. Being stuck in doldrums of the dunces half of league with winning a measly 6 wins in 24 is enough to warrant criticism without bringing up the hypothetical of a relegation scrap. Which we are not in at moment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanvilla_1994 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 If we lose against Man City then check this out: SHA (last season): 25 Games Played, 30 points Villa (this season): 25 Games Played, 28 points Jesus christ I didn't realise it was that bad. He has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Im well aware of McLeishs previous form in relegations and well aware of his diabolical win ratio with us. 6 wins in 24 games is embarrasing. 3 wins at home and its now February is indeed ridiculous. but seriously theres no real chance of relegation IMO. But what annoys me is this squad shouldn't be in the dunces half of the league and would not be if we had appointed a better manager. Yes the squad has faults but is not THAT bad . No matter how detrimental McLeish is he wont relegate us this season. We'll just bumble along cira 12th- 16th . We'll win a couple against the dunces and draw a few more. I rmber doing the BBC predictor thing and i had us finishing 15th. You say there is no real chance of us getting relegated and then back that up by saying we finish only 3 places above relegation? ....? So that means theres 'No' chance of it happening? What if we lose just a couple of extra games here and there and the likes of Wolves etc. pick up a few extra points against decent opposition. Im telling you now, When it comes to it, these teams below us are gonna start fighting and picking up more points because there managers will motivate them to do so. I dont see our manager instilling any confidence into our players. If I had to liken Mcleish to anything, It would probably be Famine. Even so - At the risk of tempting fate - we have too much quality for even relegation expert McLeish to take us down THIS SEASON. There are too many sides that are MUCH worse than us. Confidence or no confidence. Its between the current bottom 5 as to who goes down. As shit as McLeish has been and has been at Birmingham i still dont envisage that changing. This should not be misconstrued as somehow me in anyway rating McLeish . I clearly don't. But do i think we'll go down ? No. Being stuck in doldrums of the dunces half of league with winning a measly 6 wins in 24 is enough to warrant criticism without bringing up the hypothetical of a relegation scrap. Which we are not in at moment . I am sure the knuckle dragging inbreds across the town were saying the exact same thing last year when they were in a similar situation and were in fact above us at the time? Too good to be relegated? That is such an arrogant statement? I am sure the barcodes thought exactly that the year they went down. A team containing Owen, Nolan, Barton, Collocini, Taylor,Enrique, Jonas etc. I bet there fans thought there would be 3 teams worse than them? What worries me is that we seem to have become reliant on Keane in the past 3 games and when he is gone in 2 weeks we will revert back to the Heskey option! I am truly worried AGAIN that this man can be that bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesWithe Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 If we lose against Man City then check this out: SHA (last season): 25 Games Played, 30 points Villa (this season): 25 Games Played, 28 points My God... To have this man managing our famous club (one of the most successful clubs of all time with our fantastic history) is an outright disgrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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