pacbuddies Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Mcleish is working to a plan A plan! :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesWithe Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I do not think Lerner can afford to get rid. Mcleish is working to a plan, a project. to change that now for Lerner would be disaster and he would not get another manager (certainly none of the likes mentioned here) to manage us under the restrictions. For the club to get better Lerner has to go. And soon[/quote Its so hard too stomach this Reality though Richard it really is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 Didn't say it was a good plan. No Denis I do not think he can afford relegation either so he is between a rock and a hard place, but he put himself there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Mcleish is working to a plan A plan! :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 again, I did not say it was a good plan but it is the owners plan of make do and mend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Sure he can, we will just reduce the wage budget yet further. We are a shambles of a club being rub by people who haven't a clue what they are doing and we will be the ones who pay the price.Really? Because I'm telling you now, if he's still here at the beginning of next season I can see attendances consistently being under 30,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 under 30,000? I think the club will be thrilled if they are not under 25,000 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I don't know. The QPR attendence wasn't below 30k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 5, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 5, 2012 Sure he can, we will just reduce the wage budget yet further. We are a shambles of a club being rub by people who haven't a clue what they are doing and we will be the ones who pay the price.Really? Because I'm telling you now, if he's still here at the beginning of next season I can see attendances consistently being under 30,000. If he was bothered about attendances he wouldn't have hired McLeish. I agree with you about the attendances next season by the way but I don't think Lerner is all that bothered he has other priorities now. Match day income is important but its not the most important thing in terms of our income and is quite easily balanced out by the ever decreasing wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Then he can kiss good bye to multi millions of pounds if we're stripped to the bare bones with McLeish's management skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I don't know. The QPR attendence wasn't below 30k. How do you think match day attendance is recorded? Is it based on: A) people who actually click through a turnstile on match day; or the number of season ticket holders plus the number of match day tickets sold for the game regardless of whether they turn up or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 its based on tickets sold, if 5k season ticket holders dont turn up they are still counted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 I'm not sure you are correct there. I mean you are saying there that even if the ground was completely empty for a match the club would say we had a 20,000 attendance (or whatever the number of ST we have) legally I do not think they can do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I don't know. The QPR attendence wasn't below 30k.I know, although it certainly didn't look like 32k were there. However, if he's still around next season you can expect attendances to just keep getting lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 5, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 5, 2012 I'm pretty sure that the attendance is people in attendance, the clue is kind of in the word attendance. While the number of tickets sold is er the number of tickets sold If we say the attendance is 25k that means there are that many people in the stadium. Next season that is the sort of figure I think they will be looking at for some home games if things continue as they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 i think its on tickets sold unless somebody is counting all the ticket stubs that go through the turnstiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 5, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 5, 2012 You do know how turnstiles work don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 i base it on the number of times you are told its a sell out when it blatantly isnt, most arsenal games for example swansea at VP was officially about 33k wasnt it? and at the same time was probably as empty as VP has been all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 Cant believe we are actually having a debate on what constitutes attendance! The club PR machine will be thrilled that we find this important when the whole club is slowly going to shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 5, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 5, 2012 Cant believe we are actually having a debate on what constitutes attendance! Fair point lets get back on topic, me included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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