AstonMartin82 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Bet365 have just opened their odds for today. If it is Moyes then the 11/2 they are currently offering looks more attractive then Ashley Youngs bit of fluff I would only touch this price if it was 7 or 8 to 1 like it was a couple of days ago. Nothing significant has happened since to bring the price down (other than Martinez, yet this doesn't mean getting Moyes to leave Everton is any easier) so you are simply trading for worse prices with the same info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morales Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 The Villa-insider on twitter suggested that Villa had a shortlist of 7 and that when they ask Fulham for permission to speak to Hughes, he jump the gun and quit fulham, which put RL right off him. Same with Martinez, Wigan only made it public when they knew he wasn't going to go to the interview to score some PR points. I guessing the other 5 managers on the shortlist are Coyle, Moyes, Benitez, McClaren and one possible other. So IMO that means its a straight race between Coyle and Moyes, which would be brillant, I prefer Coyle personally but if we get Moyes we have to be patient as it took him a while to get things right at Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojames Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I'm really put off my Coyle if he thinks Jerome is worth £5mil. Unless he is getting them a nice leaving present. Has he signed Jerome? Bid rejected apparantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I'm really put off my Coyle if he thinks Jerome is worth £5mil. Unless he is getting them a nice leaving present. Has he signed Jerome? Bid rejected apparantly I wont castigate him for it until it can be proved he has bid for him. And to be honest as shit as he is, Coyle needs a new big quick-ish man and this is boltons level; feeding from relegated sides so i dont think we can use it to say Coyle is not right for villa. Pretty much same as saying because he loast an fa cup final with bolton convincingly to stoke he shouldnt get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatty Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Im not even considering Alex McLeish is being considered by the board. The bookies and the press have had no idea since day 1 who we're after, how many odds on favourites have we seen? Reliable sky sources indicating certain managers all of which have been wrong. Martinez was known because Wigan and Villa both made it known, that didnt work out (thankfully imo) and the press and papers are back now to guessing. No way McLeish, Im not getting stressed thinking about it-dotn believe for a sec the board would do that, think we should trust Randy etc will not consider him. Still Moyes for me, same since day 1. Though Sven close number two even though he's not been mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I refuse to put money on David Moyes (got enough on others for a start), but I really do not want this guy! Martinez had the potential to get me excited about Villa again on the other hand - Moyes = :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 If you can still get Moyes at 5-1 take it, take it now Hope your right as I had actually written this off :- 17/05/2011GBP 25.00 Single: DAVID MOYES @ 12/1 [Outright ...Returns: £ 0.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 11, 2011 Author Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2011 I refuse to put money on David Moyes (got enough on others for a start), but I really do not want this guy! Martinez had the potential to get me excited about Villa again on the other hand - Moyes = :cry: You prefer Martinez to Moyes? That's fairly out there as opinions go I must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astonvilla10 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I refuse to put money on David Moyes (got enough on others for a start), but I really do not want this guy! Martinez had the potential to get me excited about Villa again on the other hand - Moyes = :cry: You prefer Martinez to Moyes? That's fairly out there as opinions go I must say. I agree martinez over moyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I refuse to put money on David Moyes (got enough on others for a start), but I really do not want this guy! Martinez had the potential to get me excited about Villa again on the other hand - Moyes = :cry: You prefer Martinez to Moyes? That's fairly out there as opinions go I must say. Yep, I dont buy into all the Moyes hype. I think whether hes given money to spend or he makes money to spend he isnt 'that' good. The media hype around him is unbareable and ridiculous baring in mind hes won nothing. Someone on here described the job hed done at Everton as unbelievable. Unbelievable??? - I dont think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaneggy Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 i heard last night we are in for a big big day does any1 know if that still is the case?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker1234 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 i heard last night we are in for a big big day does any1 know if that still is the case?? Yes, a BIG BIG day of waiting for 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 i heard last night we are in for a big big day does any1 know if that still is the case?? I've got a big day planned, gym and them stripping/sanding walls and decorating followed by baby sitting. You can join me if you like then we would be in for a big day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Moyes is different league to Martinez. He's turned a club with **** all money to spend apart from money they've been able to make from selling into a top 8 club and a club everyone hates playing against (in a 'Everton are a good team' way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Aston Martinez no more - Villa's treble HELL - Daily Star RANDY LERNER is used to getting it in the neck from his Cleveland Browns fans. And Randy Lerner is in danger of suffering the same treatment at Villa Park. No matter how hard Aston Villa’s PR machine tries to spin it, the decision of Roberto Martinez to turn down the manager’s job is one of the most embarrassing slaps in the face the club have suffered in decades. Chairman Lerner might have feared grief if he had flown in the face of fan opinion and appointed Steve McClaren as Gerard Houllier’s successor. But he is likely to face a whole lot more over his increasingly farcical hunt for a new boss. Villa keep putting out official statements insisting they are determined to stay true to “heritage, competitiveness and passionate fan base”. Yet Lerner appears to be making one gaffe after another in the search to bolster an investment which stands at close on £200m since he arrived in 2006. The American’s decision to cross the pond and invest £65m to buy out Doug Ellis and take a shot at the Premier League in 2006 gave him a wonderful relief from the misery of watching his NFL franchise lose season after season. In the nine years since Lerner inherited the Browns following the death of his father in 2002, they have ended the season with a winning record – more victories than defeats – just twice. The one managerial decision he has got right was the appointment of Martin O’Neill in 2006, but that was a no-brainer and much of the spadework was done by Deadly Doug. Villa fans could not wait to see the back of the octogenarian Ellis five years ago, but in the last 12 months some of them may have cast envious glances back to the past in their darkest moments. Everything has unravelled at Villa Park since the day in August last year when O’Neill confirmed the cracks in the relationship with his owner by walking out on the club. After three successive sixth-place finishes, forays into the Europa League, a Carling Cup final and an FA Cup semi-final, O’Neill felt he was not getting the financial backing he needed to keep up the club’s progress. He went with a flea in his ear when General Charles Krulak, Lerner’s mouthpiece and right-hand man, labelled O’Neill selfish and not a team player. How they could do with O’Neill now – because everything that has followed since he walked out the door has been what Lerner may call one bum call after another, starting with the crazy decision to appoint Houllier as his replacement. Houllier’s subsequent exit on health grounds after nine months came at a cost of almost £2.5m to Lerner. The Frenchman, 63, was a man out of time even when he arrived, casually mentioning at his unveiling that he could not start work for two weeks. It was an accident waiting to happen. Villa fans quickly wanted him out, and he did himself no favours with an extraordinary love-in with his former club Liverpool after a 3-0 hammering at Anfield in December. Villa have been through four bosses in less than 12 months – O’Neill, Kevin MacDonald, Houllier and Gary McAllister. They appear no closer to naming a fifth after the debacle of the last few days. The crass comments Villa made about the manner of Mark Hughes’ walk-out on Fulham was a foot-in-mouth episode, especially when they had not fully investigated the reasons for the resignation. Carlo Ancelotti was “sounded out” and politely did not laugh. Then Rafael Benitez was spoken to and was apparently keen, until he found out that the financial plans in place for squad building this summer did not meet his own lofty requirements. Throw in Villa’s decision to cancel a scheduled interview with McClaren at less than 24 hours’ notice because they had “got their man” and it is little wonder that the credibility of Lerner and chief executive Paul Faulkner has taken a battering. Villa are consoling themselves that they only missed out on Martinez because of his special relationship with Wigan owner Dave Whelan. Perhaps they could have saved themselves embarrassment by finding that out first and scrubbing Martinez from the top of their list. His decision was swiftly followed by clear rebuffs from David Moyes and Owen Coyle, who made it clear Villa would be wasting their time making an approach. The word is going round other targets that Lerner is cutting back his financial commitments. Gareth Barry has been sold. James Milner has been sold and Ashley Young will be joining the exodus in the next few days. Brad Friedel has left for Tottenham, while Stewart Downing may be another on his way as he goes looking for Champions League football. Before making another move, Lerner should make sure the Villa Park entrance sign is as clearly labelled as the exit. lawl. Typical bollock and spin from a shit paper. Their comments are so full of holes its untrue. Apparently its better to keep players that don't want to stay and run down their contracts. Following that logic we would piss away £50m in fees. The media's biggest problem is they are guessing what Villa are up to and don't like the fact there is not a clear story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I hope so, I know the General certainly appreciates it. Even taking away the fact he manages the unwashed I really don't see the appeal. He has just taken a team down when they really shouldn't of. His teams don't score enough goals and a lot of his signings have been poor. God yes, I'm not the least impressed by what he has done. He managed to win something with the unwashed, and he deserves credit for that. No mean feat! But in all honesty, he haven't had the best track record in England and I wouldn't want him anywhere near the Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaneggy Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 i heard last night we are in for a big big day does any1 know if that still is the case?? I've got a big day planned, gym and them stripping/sanding walls and decorating followed by baby sitting. You can join me if you like then we would be in for a big day. nah ur sound chap thanks 4 the offer tho the babysitting thing put me off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 i heard last night we are in for a big big day does any1 know if that still is the case?? I've got a big day planned, gym and them stripping. You can join me if you like then we would be in for a big day. :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezza Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Is it just me, or do I get the feeling that if Randy has left the UK, he will have done so having tied up a deal for a new manager, or perhaps sanctioned the deal, with PF left to just get the contract signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCrablo Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Moyes over Matinez any day of the week. Moyes is perfect for Lerner and this club to be fair. Loyal and well respected in football Good record of bringing nurturing youngsters - Rooney, Rodwell, Coleman Good at picking up bargins oversea - Bilyaletdinov, Piennar, Fellaini, Arteta Good at spoting potential from lower leagues - Cahill, Jagielka, Lescott I'm pretty sure someone could provide a list of the horrible signings he's made as well, but overall I'd argue he knows what he's doing in the transfer market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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