chrisp65 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I remember splashing out on 8 premium brand size D batteries for the ghetto blaster. Almost strong enough to play an entire cassette. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 4 VT Supporter Share Posted February 4 33 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I remember splashing out on 8 premium brand size D batteries for the ghetto blaster. Almost strong enough to play an entire cassette. I remember buying a set for my Ghetto Blaster from a cheapo shop in King's Heath. Totally unbranded and about 10p each. They ran and ran and ran. I couldn't believe it. Thought I was on to a winner. Went and filled my boots with them. The rest barely got to the end of the track before giving in. Fond memories of sitting in the park on long hot summer nights with my mates listening to music that would make most on here be a little sick in their mouth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 4 Moderator Share Posted February 4 My big boom box memory was taking it on holiday to Greece. Got the airline to pay for it because they damaged it, claimed on my holiday insurance telling them someone stole it and sold it to a Greek fella for his beach bar, I think all of them individually paid me more for it than I bought it for myself. It genuinely paid for the holiday and more back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 This media scare-mongering over XL bullies is doing my head in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Dante_Lockhart said: This media scare-mongering over XL bullies is doing my head in. Which bit is scare mongering? They are household pets that are literally killing people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 7 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Genie said: Which bit is scare mongering? They are household pets that are literally killing people. They probably aren't 'XL bullies', and the media circus around the issue is basically a moral panic born of marketing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Genie said: Which bit is scare mongering? They are household pets that are literally killing people. Don't start me ranting dude, you're buying into the narrative. ANY dog can attack and kill. I know plenty of people with an XL and they're sound. Before all this came out they were off lead over Warrens Hall Reserve running round with my Golden and loving life. Now they're muzzled and on a short lead because people are now terrified of them. Rather than banning breads they need to start clamping down on bad owners. I've seen a Jack Russell attack 3 dogs over there this year, should they be banned to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Chindie said: They probably aren't 'XL bullies', and the media circus around the issue is basically a moral panic born of marketing. Which ones probably aren’t? If they aren’t I assume they are some very closely related breed as they look and act very similarly. Whats the issue with how the media are reporting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dante_Lockhart said: Don't start me ranting dude, you're buying into the narrative. ANY dog can attack and kill. I know plenty of people with an XL and they're sound. Before all this came out they were off lead over Warrens Hall Reserve running round with my Golden and loving life. Now they're muzzled and on a short lead because people are now terrified of them. Rather than banning breads they need to start clamping down on bad owners. I've seen a Jack Russell attack 3 dogs over there this year, should they be banned to? How many people have Jack Russell’s killed recently? If you really wound it up, is it capable of killing a grown man or woman? Nope. Little dogs are a nightmare, constantly snappping at my dog (Beagle) when we pass them on a walk. They can’t do anyone any serious harm though. Thats why XL bully’s are getting so much focus. They have the capacity to kill, and are killing. I can’t remember the case but it was a couple of months ago, an XL bully killed someone. In the picture shown in the media it was sat on a sofa next to 2 little kids, I bet the owner would have guaranteed his dog was perfectly safe otherwise he wouldn’t let his kids near it… before it killed someone. Edited February 7 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 minutes ago, Dante_Lockhart said: Rather than banning breads they need to start clamping down on bad owners. What does a bad owner look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Designer1 Posted February 7 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Genie said: What does a bad owner look like? 3 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 7 minutes ago, Genie said: What does a bad owner look like? Do I really need to answer that? I mean it's pretty obvious what a bad pet owner is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Dante_Lockhart said: Do I really need to answer that? I mean it's pretty obvious what a bad pet owner is like. No please, how would you protect the public from dogs capable of killing an adult by clamping down on bad owners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 7 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7 34 minutes ago, Genie said: Which ones probably aren’t? If they aren’t I assume they are some very closely related breed as they look and act very similarly. Whats the issue with how the media are reporting it? The XL bully isn't really a breed (yet, anyway) - if it was a recognised breed you'd lose a lot of the problem. The guy that started the 'breed' wanted to create the ultimate poser dog, a dog that was far stockier than the normal pitbull but with a much more lap dog style temperament. And he did, he ended up with a dog that looked like a pitbull on steroids but had the temperament of pug. The problem though is the look became the selling point and people wanted the muscular mean looking pitbull, which meant it created a market for any idiot to sell any pitbull type dog as an XL bully, and it created a demand for people to breed their own lines of muscle bound pitbulls but who didn't care about the temperament (or worse, wanted a muscle bound pitbull with a nasty temperament), so you ended in the situation where basically every pitbull type dog is sold as an XL bully and nobody knows what they actually are. Then the pandemic happens and a load of people get dogs, and because of the fashion for the XL bully that 'breed' becomes a big part of the new dogs owned, and nobody trains them properly so you get a load of untrained unsocialised dogs of unknown pedigree and unknown lineage running about that then come into an opened up world and some end up attacking people, and because the fashion is XL bullies everyone knows the dog is an XL bully, and before you know it every dog attack is an XL bully and the problem is the 'breed'. Essentially the story here, with these dog attacks, isn't a problem with XL bullies, it's a problem of booming bad dog ownership. But the headline isn't as interesting when it's 'dog attacks person'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 25 minutes ago, Genie said: No please, how would you protect the public from dogs capable of killing an adult by clamping down on bad owners? German Shepherds, Staffies, Rotties, Dobermans. They're all capable of killing an adult but rarely do you hear of anything. It's only recently the XL has been targetted for some reason, and most of the XL bully attacks are more than likely similar breads but not an XL bully. If owners have control over their dogs there is no issue. If your dog has bad recall, don't let it off lead. If your dog is nervous, don't let it off lead. If your dog is aggressive, don't let it off lead. If you can't CONTROL your dog on a lead, don't take it to a busy area. If you can't trust your dog around people - don't let it off lead. Bad owners ignore the most common sense of rules owning a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 11 minutes ago, Chindie said: Essentially the story here, with these dog attacks, isn't a problem with XL bullies, it's a problem of booming bad dog ownership. But the headline isn't as interesting when it's 'dog attacks person'. I completely disagree, bad dog owners aren’t new, and it’s impossible to police (unless they are already guilty of doing something bad to animals which rules them out of owning other dogs/animals anyway). Dogs that kill people is new (since the last ones were banned), often the media report the attacks by an XL Bully “type” dog which is reasonable, and going by your post you’re aligned to. It’s not something which was always happening and now the media decided to latch on to it to spread fear. They are reporting a wave of domestic animals killing people and I find it really strange that some peoples biggest issue with it is the way it’s reported by the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 7 Moderator Share Posted February 7 We could just ban dogs, sod it ban any form of pet. Just think of the shelf space it would free up in the supermarkets It would encourage people to go out and make friends with other people instead of walking their pampered inbreeding experiments. No shit on the pavements, everyone would be able to afford to go down the pub Only downside I can see is blind people walking into lamp posts but its a small price to pay *I'm joking 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 7 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7 8 minutes ago, Genie said: I completely disagree, bad dog owners aren’t new, and it’s impossible to police (unless they are already guilty of doing something bad to animals which rules them out of owning other dogs/animals anyway). Dogs that kill people is new (since the last ones were banned), often the media report the attacks by an XL Bully “type” dog which is reasonable, and going by your post you’re aligned to. It’s not something which was always happening and now the media decided to latch on to it to spread fear. They are reporting a wave of domestic animals killing people and I find it really strange that some peoples biggest issue with it is the way it’s reported by the media. I'm not saying that bad owners are new. I'm saying that you've had an increase in dog ownership, with a related increase in dogs not being trained and socialised properly, during lockdown, that has coincided with a fashion for muscular pitbull dogs. The issue isn't inherently the dogs. There's been lethal dog attacks forever, we've got numerous breeds that are perfectly capable of killing someone if the fancy took them - have you seen a fully grown rottweiler in a bad mood? It's sobering. The issue is a load of people getting dogs in lockdown, not training them or socialising them (the latter of which is particularly difficult in lockdown in fairness), and going with a fashion for a type of dog that needs to be well trained, particularly if they aren't actually the 'real' XL bully 'breed'. Then you get a series of attacks that seem to come from similar types of dogs (which is itself an issue, turns out there's actually a lot of different dogs that look 'like an XL bully') and people are pointing at the dog as the issue as if they are inherently dangerous, when the reality is the vast majority of them are completely fine (if they weren't, there's so many of these dogs around you'd have the hospitals flooded with dog attack victims). The XL bully thing is a marketing nightmare that's become a moral panic. The actual thing at fault is a bunch of idiots getting posing dogs they can't handle and haven't bothered to train and socialise, then putting them in situations they haven't been used to and the owners aren't prepared for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Chindie said: I'm not saying that bad owners are new. I'm saying that you've had an increase in dog ownership, with a related increase in dogs not being trained and socialised properly, during lockdown, that has coincided with a fashion for muscular pitbull dogs. The issue isn't inherently the dogs. There's been lethal dog attacks forever, we've got numerous breeds that are perfectly capable of killing someone if the fancy took them - have you seen a fully grown rottweiler in a bad mood? It's sobering. The issue is a load of people getting dogs in lockdown, not training them or socialising them (the latter of which is particularly difficult in lockdown in fairness), and going with a fashion for a type of dog that needs to be well trained, particularly if they aren't actually the 'real' XL bully 'breed'. Then you get a series of attacks that seem to come from similar types of dogs (which is itself an issue, turns out there's actually a lot of different dogs that look 'like an XL bully') and people are pointing at the dog as the issue as if they are inherently dangerous, when the reality is the vast majority of them are completely fine (if they weren't, there's so many of these dogs around you'd have the hospitals flooded with dog attack victims). The XL bully thing is a marketing nightmare that's become a moral panic. The actual thing at fault is a bunch of idiots getting posing dogs they can't handle and haven't bothered to train and socialise, then putting them in situations they haven't been used to and the owners aren't prepared for. It’s been nearly 3 years since the last full lockdown. Even so, during the pandemic people were at home a lot (perfect time to train a dog) and were still allowed to walk / exercise them every day even during lockdowns. I know lots of people who have dogs less than 4 years old, none of them are vicious or violent. Lockdown is no excuse at all. Bad owners are not the reason either, there have been bad dog owners forever. Dogs bred to be incredibly strong and aggressive is the issue. It’s not about having a dog someone can’t handle. A little old lady might not be able to handle a boisterous labrador but that labrador is unlikely to tear a grown man apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 7 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7 Funnily enough labradors are the most common breed involved in dog attacks, and have killed people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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