DJBOB Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Moyes has a ceiling because his team will never control games. That doesn’t mean he’s not an effective manager. The results clearly show he is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, Avfc96 said: He took Everton to the Champions League qualification rounds where they were knocked out at the first hurdle. The season they qualified, Liverpool practically gave up and focused on the CL latter stages from April onwards. They also finished 11th the season after. As I said, he's a good manager that has a certain level. He's also failed miserably at Manchester United, Real Sociedad and Sunderland. Barry was an outstanding player and then moved onto win the league at City whilst being one of the first names on the team sheet that season. When Moyes went onto 'bigger' things, he was awful. Moyes was basically given no money. Wasn't his only signing Fellaini? Their struggled since, despite spending fortunes, suggest there's more serious problems at the club. This idea that good managers must always be at top clubs otherwise they're not good, even if they overachive elsewhere is just a narrative I can not agree with. Very 'Sky Sports'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: Moyes was basically given no money. Wasn't his only signing Fellaini? Their struggled since, despite spending fortunes, suggest there's more serious problems at the club. This idea that good managers must always be at top clubs otherwise they're not good, even if they overachive elsewhere is just a narrative I can not agree with. Very 'Sky Sports'. Moyes was given a fair bit of money, not as much as the top clubs or even us at the time but still considerably more than other clubs. He had the 7th biggest wage bill and finished 7th or there abouts for the most part. As I said, he's a good manager that has a ceiling. He's far from outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Sterling rolling 4 turns trying to get a Wolves player sent off. Yeah he did get hit but the Rivaldo act was a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 That Chelsea kit looks damn nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Sterling....wtf ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Haha Sterling you greedy twerp. 3 against only the GK and you do that instead of passing for the guaranteed goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Sterling is just Alan Hutton with pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoyman Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Tbf would you want to square it into the general region of Nicolas Jackson rn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 How is this not a penalty.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 35 minutes ago, BG_Villa_Fan said: That Chelsea kit looks damn nice. Would buy a Villa top with the Gold/Silver badge all day long looks great. They should do one next season for reaching the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, BG_Villa_Fan said: How is this not a penalty.. Yes his hand changed the direction of the ball so clearly a stone wall penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Absolutely love seeing Chelsea implode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, gwi1890 said: Yes his hand changed the direction of the ball so clearly a stone wall penalty Exactly. Genuinely not sure what the rules are anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Chelsea are crap, it still baffles me you can spend all the money and have such a poor-looking squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Chelsea is a midtable club. People just haven't caught up to it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Oh god, that Jackson lad looks abysmal. Every time he gets the ball he doesn't seem to know what to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, BG_Villa_Fan said: Exactly. Genuinely not sure what the rules are anymore. most likely are pre determined to whom the refs want to win the match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, MachoFantastico said: Oh god, that Jackson lad looks abysmal. Every time he gets the ball he doesn't seem to know what to do with it. Which is why we Stayed away from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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