VILLAMARV Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Saw one out in the wild this weekend it looks fine irl. Badge is the best bit of it. Sponsors always ruin them. Except Acorns. But, yeah it's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, HKP90 said: I think that's been my biggest problem with the new kit, really, although I appreciate that colours can vary in photos. Look at the masthead on this site. Then look at the kit. The kit looks way too 'red' to me. Almost Arsenal red. Luke kit was great imo as it dropped us a few shades darker, which is where we should be imo. As long as we don’t touch purple! Claret is dark red, but not too dark. And we’ve usually had the most vibrant shade rather than the dull crap that West Ham & Burnley have. This site doesn’t have the perfect shade either. Luke kit had two great shades on one shirt Some of the training gear and what manager wears in press conferences get this better than the actual shirt! Embarrassing. Edited July 3, 2023 by Jas10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 On 01/07/2023 at 02:47, TheAuthority said: This looks like the yellow ('85?) Henson away kit I had when I was a kid. I loved it, I don't think I ever took the top off. I've even still got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Jas10 said: As long as we don’t touch purple! Claret is dark red, but not too dark. And we’ve usually had the most vibrant shade rather than the dull crap that West Ham & Burnley have. This site doesn’t have the perfect shade either. Luke kit had two great shades on one shirt Some of the training gear and what manager wears in press conferences get this better than the actual shirt! Embarrassing. Not aimed specifically at your Jas, but we rarely retain the same colour shades for our home kits. Out of interest, what is the correct shade of claret from this collection? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted July 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: Not aimed specifically at your Jas, but we rarely retain the same colour shades for our home kits. Out of interest, what is the correct shade of claret from this collection? Numbering left to right, top to bottom, my favoured colours would be 2, 4, 6, 8 and because it was my first ever shirt, 9. I like the darker reds typically. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Just now, HKP90 said: Numbering left to right, top to bottom, my favoured colours would be 2, 4, 6, 8 and because it was my first ever shirt, 9. I like the darker reds typically. 4 is purple on my phone... but 2 and 6 I agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted July 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, MrBlack said: 4 is purple on my phone... but 2 and 6 I agree with. I probably should have prefaced this by saying that I am a little bit colour blind, so I'm not sure how that affects certain shades, but probably not much, as I have always been that way, so will have grown up with it. See your point on 4, and just included it cos it's darker. Happy to drop that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted July 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Numbering left to right, top to bottom, my favoured colours would be 2, 4, 6, 8 and because it was my first ever shirt, 9. I like the darker reds typically. Also, do we think the new one is sort of trying to be an update of number 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: Not aimed specifically at your Jas, but we rarely retain the same colour shades for our home kits. Out of interest, what is the correct shade of claret from this collection? They look different depending on the light they are in… I guess it’s a case of personal preference too. This was always pretty much perfect: Going off those pics as they are, I would say: 1, 6 and maybe 7… 9. 4 is horrible - purple West Ham. Edited July 3, 2023 by Jas10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 45 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: Not aimed specifically at your Jas, but we rarely retain the same colour shades for our home kits. Out of interest, what is the correct shade of claret from this collection? Perfection: It’s when we slant to purple that I dislike it most… we have zero association with that colour and it looks bad. I remember an Under Armour shirt actually being purple - disgusting. Claret = dark red. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNVillan Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, StanBalaban said: Not aimed specifically at your Jas, but we rarely retain the same colour shades for our home kits. Out of interest, what is the correct shade of claret from this collection? Not only the claret changes, so does the blue. 4 is far too light, and 8/9 is too dark. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNVillan Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Perfection: It’s when we slant to purple that I dislike it most… we have zero association with that colour and it looks bad. I remember an Under Armour shirt actually being purple - disgusting. Claret = dark red. Great shades of claret, but the blue is far too light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Maybe something @NurembergVillancan shed some light on, but I wonder if club and national teams sometimes have an official pantone for club colours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted July 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, MNVillan said: Not only the claret changes, so does the blue. 4 is far too light, and 8/9 is too dark. Good call. I always hated babysick blue (I ate lots of haribo as a child). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) Reebok did some great work: Edited July 3, 2023 by Jas10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNVillan Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, HKP90 said: Also, do we think the new one is sort of trying to be an update of number 7? I actually thought the same thing about 6, but it could easily be 7 as well. Both give off similar vibes to this year’s shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted July 3, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, StanBalaban said: Maybe something @NurembergVillancan shed some light on, but I wonder if club and national teams sometimes have an official pantone for club colours? All the good ones do, yes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLVillan Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 21:47, TheAuthority said: Well, this is a nice (improved) replica of the away shirt from the worst season in my lifetime (86-7) so now is as good a time as any to banish the ghost with Unai in charge.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FLVillan Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, StanBalaban said: Maybe something @NurembergVillancan shed some light on, but I wonder if club and national teams sometimes have an official pantone for club colours? I have some insight into this question (I did sports kit and two logo changes in a ten year span at a US college sports dept). The new college logo was specific with the pantone matching system (PMS) for the ink colours. All of the printed material and digital logos were perfect. The issue is that the PMS system doesn't match up with fabric dyes. So while you can create consistency with any logo or artwork in printed/digital form, getting a fabric manufacturer to come up with an exact match is extremely difficult. Moreover, the type of fabric used (nylon, poly, cotton etc etc) and the density of the materials will absorb the dye at different levels, causing two pieces of fabric to look significantly different with the same dye. Add in the fact that most of the production facilities are scattered around in southeast Asia, and it becomes extremely challenging, no matter how much money is being spent. In one of our college changes the new logo was predominantly blue and the supplier for all of our teams at the time (adidas) had several shades of dark blue. We got samples of them and in a room of people, half of them said the closest match was navy blue and half said it was "dark royal" (they offered two shades of royal blue). At one point, we had a baseball shirt alongside a basketball shirt in the exact-same colour on a table and they looked completely different shades. Thankfully I had the final say and went for navy blue for all teams because there was no chance I was putting any of our kids into Small Heath colours.... 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post limpid Posted July 3, 2023 Administrator Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, StanBalaban said: Maybe something @NurembergVillancan shed some light on, but I wonder if club and national teams sometimes have an official pantone for club colours? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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