Vive_La_Villa Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, CarryOnVilla said: He did? didn’t even notice. For a squad who finished 3rd in the Prem, Chelsea didn’t have too many players stand out. not sure if that’s good or bad Yep 24 in the league and rest cups including 8 in champs leagues. A lot of them off the bench sure but still shows a top coach like Tuchel had faith in him. TBH I think that Twitter guy a wind up anyway and we’re not in for either player. But both would improve us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Just now, duke313 said: Sky were too busy fawning over Man City and Liverpool. Pffft doesn’t be so lowbrow…. I get my information from football insider 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: That's a simplification A guy who was 5th or 6th choice CM for Chelsea isn't automatically 1st choice for us Ross Barkley got games for Chelsea last year, do you want him back? Tbf mate over 13k minutes and appearing in 40 games is a bit more than 5th or 6th choice. Barkley in comparison played 452 minutes. The former was for the team, the latter was to try and get rid of him. Edited July 1, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Yep 24 in the league and rest cups including 8 in champs leagues. A lot of them off the bench sure but still shows a top coach like Tuchel had faith in him. TBH I think that Twitter guy a wind up anyway and we’re not in for either player. But both would improve us. Oh it’s a full on wind up, but good use of a fun fact. 3 Chelsea midfielders getting relegated in 3 teams in the same season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Yep 24 in the league and rest cups including 8 in champs leagues. A lot of them off the bench sure but still shows a top coach like Tuchel had faith in him. TBH I think that Twitter guy a wind up anyway and we’re not in for either player. But both would improve us. I don’t think RLC would improve us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Oh it’s a full on wind up, but good use of a fun fact. 3 Chelsea midfielders getting relegated in 3 teams in the same season Who was the third with an English cap? Edited July 1, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 1, 2022 Loftus-Cheek is a good player who probably doesn't fit Chelsea that well. He's a true CM, not defensively disciplined or minded enough to be a DM, not enough of a forward to be an AM, but does everything fairly well. Which also is why he gets shuffled around as a versatility player. I think he's basically played every position bar GK for Chelsea at some time. It's only last year he's played any serious number of games for them in CM, as the first choice figures for them got injured, and he was decent but evidently not what Tuchel wanted. Unfortunately he's stupidly injury prone. He misses too many games to be relied on. If he didn't get be a good shout for us as a versatility player who is just that step below the elite level. But as it is, you'd be bringing him in knowing he's going to miss 10 games. Which for how much he's going to be paid and how much we'd probably expect from a player of his ability is too much. So probably not one for us. Thankfully he's clearly either going out on loan to Fulham or the like, or someone like Newcastle will come in for him as a squad bolster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: That's a simplification A guy who was 5th or 6th choice CM for Chelsea isn't automatically 1st choice for us Ross Barkley got games for Chelsea last year, do you want him back? Only Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante played more mins in midfield than RLC last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 His issue is consistency, which is where Gerrard might pull back as thats the biggest issue we have in the team as a whole. But the upside to him is certainly interesting. Maybe Gerrard thinks he can unlock that potential . He has everything you could ever want in a midfielder. Pace power skill strength. Up to Gerrard ( if the link is indeed true ) to decide if he wants to take the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: Who was the third with an English cap? totally English 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, nick76 said: I don’t think RLC would improve us I think he would improve us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Tbf mate over 13k minutes and appearing in 40 games is a bit more than 5th or 6th choice. Barkley in comparison played 452 minutes. The former was for the team, the latter was to try and get rid of him. Kante, jorghino, kovacic, Mount, havertz, RLC, Barkley, saul I'd lazily guess in a midfield 3 only Barkley and Saul played less than him Edit - and now they have Gallagher who will play more than him Edited July 1, 2022 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: His issue is consistency, which is where Gerrard might pull back as thats the biggest issue we have in the team as a whole. But the upside to him is certainly interesting. Maybe Gerrard thinks he can unlock that potential . He has everything you could ever want in a midfielder. Pace power skill strength. Up to Gerrard ( if the link is indeed true ) to decide if he wants to take the chance. It’s a rubbish link, no way will Villa be interested in another Barkley type player who it is debatable whether he’d get into our team. Our transfers to date show we are looking for quality upgrades and not side steps moves at best plus a dodgy injury history. Just a rubbish link! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: totally English There you go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, duke313 said: 8 minutes ago, nick76 said: I don’t think RLC would improve us I think he would improve us Ok, can’t help you being wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Kante, jorghino, kovacic, Mount, havertz, RLC, Barkley, saul I'd lazily guess in a midfield 3 only Barkley and Saul played less than him Edit - and now they have Gallagher who will play more than him Havertz is a striker these days so I’ll put him 4th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: There you go Bravo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, duke313 said: Only Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante played more mins in midfield than RLC last season. So last season he was 4th choice, this season with Gallagher there he's 5th choice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Kante, jorghino, kovacic, Mount, havertz, RLC, Barkley, saul I'd lazily guess in a midfield 3 only Barkley and Saul played less than him Edit - and now they have Gallagher who will play more than him Havertz and Mount are attacking midfielders. Kante, Jorghino, Kovacic, RLC, Barkley, Saul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Just now, nick76 said: It’s a rubbish link, no way will Villa be interested in another Barkley type player who it is debatable whether he’d get into our team. Our transfers to date show we are looking for quality upgrades and not side steps moves at best plus a dodgy injury history. Just a rubbish link! I would call it interesting not rubbish to be fair. His profile is far more what we need than Otavio for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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