paul514 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, a m ole said: Shut up @pissflaps ah sorry get a bit trigger happy when I saw the face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, HalfTimePost said: Suppose the difference is Gomez came through at Barca and Dortmund as an attacking midfielder and has shone so much in Anderlecht as a left back in a poor league. Technically he will be superior, for sure. But doing it in a poor league it may well be his defending is very poor and he wouldn't translate to a PL fullback. He may be fantastic and he certainly sounds the most exciting of the two. But he could just as easily be a Kamikaze fullback who can't defend, able to smash the Belgian league in offense just as Samatta and Wesley have before as strikers. Merlin however plays in a Top 5 league (albeit the worst of the 5) and has had decent stats out of it and OK attacking output. It's more obvious that you can compare his experience to Villa (Guilbert etc). I've never seen either play, as a backup to someone like Digne, we can take a bit of a risk. I'd be more confident in Merlin stepping in but more excited for the potential of Gomez. As a luxury backup, I'd not be much bothered either way and nice to see us looking at progressive, young options Was wondering if he was the same Gomez who was a hot prospect at Barca and Dortmund a few years ago. Seems like a strange one to go from attacking midfield to left back. I’d have some concerns to be honest especially if he was only recently sold by Dortmund who have a good record of promoting youth players. Sometimes these la masia graduates just shuffle round the various European leagues living off the Barcelona name on their CV. There was one guy Halilovic who was apparently one of the best prospects around at one point.. he ended up at Small Heath!! Edited June 5, 2022 by david-avfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, david-avfc said: Was wondering if he was the same Gomez who was a hot prospect at Barca and Dortmund a few years ago. Seems like a strange one to go from attacking midfield to left back. I’d have some concerns to be honest especially if he was only recently sold by Dortmund who have a good record of promoting youth players. Sometimes these la masia graduates just shuffle round the various European leagues living off the Barcelona name on their CV. There was one guy Halilovic who was apparently one of the best prospects around at one point.. he ended up at Small Heath!! That is what scouts are for, I have never seen Gomez play just the stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Bale on a pay as you play contract 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Zero7 said: Bale on a pay as you play contract Is this you saying we are signing him as that or a suggestion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaHatesMe Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Wouldn't discount the Yannick Carrasco links entirely. He was playing more of a wingback/left-sided midfielder role as the season progressed. Don't think it's likely, but if we're looking at him, it might not be to play as a forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, VillaHatesMe said: Wouldn't discount the Yannick Carrasco links entirely. He was playing more of a wingback/left-sided midfielder role as the season progressed. Don't think it's likely, but if we're looking at him, it might not be to play as a forward. So you are saying we may bring him in to replace Digne? That is even more fanciful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaHatesMe Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, paul514 said: So you are saying we may bring him in to replace Digne? That is even more fanciful I'm saying we may be bringing him in to play more of a midfield role. But I also said I don't think it's likely. Was merely pointing out he isn't an outright winger these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, Zero7 said: Bale on a pay as you play contract Play football or golf? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Play football or golf? Belfry is close by so we got the pull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 If he’s available I’d like us to look at Zinchenko as a CM option. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: If he’s available I’d like us to look at Zinchenko as a CM option. He has played there 25 times, almost all as an international game or a youth player.... https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/oleksandr-zinchenko/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/203853/saison/ges/pos/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, paul514 said: He has played there 25 times, almost all as an international game or a youth player.... https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/oleksandr-zinchenko/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/203853/saison/ges/pos/7 Watched him against Scotland and again tonight against Wales, really seems to suit the CM role. Unlikely anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Neco Williams anyone? Left sided and had a good season at Fulham. Probably doubts about how he'd do in prem but one we could have as backup to Digne and develop over a couple of seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: If he’s available I’d like us to look at Zinchenko as a CM option. Apparently City want £50m for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Apparently City want £50m for him. That’s the end of that one then! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: If he’s available I’d like us to look at Zinchenko as a CM option. He’d be an interesting option if the price is right, his versatility would be helpful to the squad as he could provide cover for left back whilst also competing for a midfield place too. I guess the question is whether he’s actually good enough to be a PL midfielder, as he’s not really been tested much there in the league, international football is a bit different and it’s common for players to be shifted into different positions for their national sides (Alaba in attacking midfield for Switzerland is an example which comes to mind) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Neco Williams anyone? Left sided and had a good season at Fulham. Probably doubts about how he'd do in prem but one we could have as backup to Digne and develop over a couple of seasons. Isn't he the highly rated Liverpool youth player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, paul514 said: Isn't he the highly rated Liverpool youth player? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Neco Williams anyone? Left sided and had a good season at Fulham. Probably doubts about how he'd do in prem but one we could have as backup to Digne and develop over a couple of seasons. No 1 hour ago, Zero7 said: Bale on a pay as you play contract and No 44 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: If he’s available I’d like us to look at Zinchenko as a CM option. and No again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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