Jas10 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, nick76 said: Sorry, Dave and I were just playing up, having a bit of fun! Nick and Dave: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, nick76 said: In summary I’m not as fixated on the first XI as some. For starters it depends on injuries, suspensions, formations, tiredness, tactics, opposition, form or how we are doing in the game. I mean if we had 100% fit, in form team every game then we only need 11 players but we know that’s not the case. A lot of the argument comes over that. Obviously Tammy can only play as striker, he isn’t flexible for anywhere else but having two top notch strikers is not unreasonable to have as options to cater for all of the above and to give both players plenty of game time. To be honest you’d have to ask me before each game of who plays where. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Our midfield is weak and lightweight. Sure, all of our players have certain qualities and make a contribution. But that is something we need to address. Sick and tired of seeing us outmuscled and overpowered in games. Sick of us being loose, careless and hurried in possession. I want us to be more dominant, keep a hold of that ball, and mix it. I want us to win that midfield battle. So let’s work on that. The only issue we have here assuming we buy ESR or another top notch CAM, then we have McGinn, Luiz, Sanson and Ramsey for the two other midfield positions. That’s a lot, if we buy a DCM as we all think we probably need then surely we have too many midfielders so I assume something happens. That’s why in the scheme of things CAM is my top priority followed by a striker, then DCM because if we don’t have enough budget we have enough at midfield level to get through the season although not perfect in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 So Chelsea don't want him and all the other likely clubs aren't in for him. Why are we paying almost £40 million then. If that's the deal we are absolutely getting mugged off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, Rightdm00 said: So Chelsea don't want him and all the other likely clubs aren't in for him. Why are we paying almost £40 million then. If that's the deal we are absolutely getting mugged off. We’ll only Man U were in for Sancho. Only us and Arsenal in for Buendia Only Leicester in for Daka Only Liverpool for Konate All these teams getting mugged off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: The only issue we have here assuming we buy ESR or another top notch CAM, then we have McGinn, Luiz, Sanson and Ramsey for the two other midfield positions. That’s a lot, if we buy a DCM as we all think we probably need then surely we have too many midfielders so I assume something happens. That’s why in the scheme of things CAM is my top priority followed by a striker, then DCM because if we don’t have enough budget we have enough at midfield level to get through the season although not perfect in midfield. that's assuming a defensive midfielder is easy to skip until a later, window.....I don't think it is, if we have ambitions to win matches...unless of course one emerges as a dominant force. Its another example of not seeing it as a priority.....which is fine, its your opinion. Gareth has just shown us the need for such players and how they hold things together, until the cavalry arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, nick76 said: We’ll only Man U were in for Sancho. Only us and Arsenal in for Buendia Only Leicester in for Daka Only Liverpool for Konate All these teams getting mugged off Which one of these players couldn't even get a game for their club? We are literally doing Chelsea a favor by clearing Tammy off their wage books. So yes £38 million for an unwanted striker is us getting mugged off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, TRO said: that's assuming a defensive midfielder is easy to skip until a later, window.....I don't think it is, if we have ambitions to win matches...unless of course one emerges as a dominant force. Its another example of not seeing it as a priority.....which is fine, its your opinion. Gareth has just shown us the need for such players and how they hold things together, until the cavalry arrive. No I think it’s key to get but is it for Dean and co? Rumours are mixed. My point though is it may not be because they have so many already in the club with Sanson, McGinn, Luiz and Ramsey, and none of them looking like they are being sold and they look like first teamers so adding a fifth player for two places seems unlikely as a major priority does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rightdm00 said: Which one of these players couldn't even get a game for their club? We are literally doing Chelsea a favor by clearing Tammy off their wage books. So yes £38 million for an unwanted striker is us getting mugged off. Ok whatever, you think we are getting mugged off, I don’t. Just bizarre! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboys1 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 competition wont do watkins anyharme if true he wont get that with wes or davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jas10 said: Nick and Dave: I see this is where your minds floating Jas you naughty boy. Edited July 2, 2021 by Dave-R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Rightdm00 said: Which one of these players couldn't even get a game for their club? We are literally doing Chelsea a favor by clearing Tammy off their wage books. So yes £38 million for an unwanted striker is us getting mugged off. How can we be getting mugged off if he comes in and does a fantastic job, this daft post is well just daft. Again Judging Tammy before he's gotten chance to put a Villa shirt on. Was you saying all this when he was playing for us in the championship, I bet you was singing or chanting his name. I sware to god I do hope the club signs him just so he can put you lot to shame on all that your saying because some of it is just complete nonsense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dave-R said: I see this is where your minds floating Jas you naughty boy. Not at all, I keep it clean Bromance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 48 minutes ago, beachboys1 said: competition wont do watkins anyharme if true he wont get that with wes or davis Exactly. I think some of our VT residents think Watkins should be without competition,shouldn't have anyone challenge him for his place or be rotated for and that he will do fine forever without any injuries creeping on in. Davis and Wesley are not going to do for a European challenge, we will be banging our heads at the walls wishing for a striker who can score in the coming season. Watkins need someone who can pick up the slack if needed, even be subbed in the 66 min let's say, he just needs someone who can be there to aid him who's reliable and Tammy is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Not at all, I keep it clean Bromance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, beachboys1 said: competition wont do watkins anyharme if true he wont get that with wes or davis Abraham won’t come here to sit on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboys1 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, sir_gary_cahill said: Abraham won’t come here to sit on the bench i cant see many clubs who want him giving him that promise although i accept what you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Abraham won’t come here to sit on the bench Such a disingenuous comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Abraham won’t come here to sit on the bench If he does join then it’s up to him to prove he deserves to start. If we want to get back to the top then we need to change the mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Dave-R said: Advanced talks whether or not it's true I dno??? https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/abraham-villa-fee-transfer-update-20520425 Quote Galetti states that Villa are preparing to make an offer of 45million euros (£38m) to bring Abraham back to Villa Park. "Preparing" What are we doing, counting out the cash in Purslow's office first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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