bickster Posted September 30, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Johnnyp said: Good bounce back from Scotland. Pool A is very interesting. Surely Japan are smarting over 4 years ago when Scotland bust their bubble after their heroics against the Boks. The script is almost identical. Got to feel sorry for Samoa though, not today particularly but all the time. All their best players play for other countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted September 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, bickster said: Got to feel sorry for Samoa though, not today particularly but all the time. All their best players play for other countries Same for most of the South Sea Islands. It really is disgusting how many of their best young players are poached to go play in other countries to qualify for that nation. For every Tuilagi, there are hundreds of others brought over and then cast aside if they don’t quite make the grade. Young lives ruined and home nations negatively impacted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Brutal start to the Argentina game but red card, whilst the right decision will spoil this as a contest now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, theboyangel said: Brutal start to the Argentina game but red card, whilst the right decision will spoil this as a contest now. Yep agreed, Argentina were doing well and really pushing England. However playing over an hr with 14 men will kill them, England will pull away with it 20 mins to go. Letter of the law the sending off had to happen even though at real speed it’s hard and Farrell didn’t seem affected by it. Top referee though and the mic with him explaining his decision has always been great, still don’t know why football won’t follow suit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) Lovely try. England clearly trying to keep the ball on the pitch to wear down Argentina for later Edited October 5, 2019 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Brutal start to the Argentina game but red card, whilst the right decision will spoil this as a contest now. Glad to see they're consistent - dirty on the football and rugby field! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Lovely try. England clearly trying to keep the ball on the pitch to wear down Argentina for later Understandably, Argentina looked shattered at the end of the first half. England did the right thing by continuing phase upon phase we’ll past half time to prolong the pain. England should score 2-3 tries in the second half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 Let’s hope Billy isn’t bad we’ll need him in the knock out stages 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Let’s hope Billy isn’t bad we’ll need him in the knock out stages With a man over, it was a good thing to take him off and give minutes on the pitch to another squad member. sure he’s fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 Poor second half from England really. Knew they’d won and just relaxed and took foot off gas. Understandably, but I’d still like to see an 80 minute performance from us and we’ll need to later on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Great to see Jack Nowell back. He brings something different to our backs. Brilliantly taken try, from pinballing off tacklers to the precision dab down in the corner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Great to see Jack Nowell back. He brings something different to our backs. Brilliantly taken try, from pinballing off tacklers to the precision dab down in the corner. Yep to finish like that is great skill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Very impressive from England. They are very powerful. Ball presentation at ruck is fast and they move it quickly. Their running lines are a little bit predictable and telegraphed at times but cant pick out much criticism in their game right now. Argentina ? Poorest they've been probably since 2007. My worry for England is they will arrive at a QF a bit undercooked. France will be predictably French in their approach to a QF and i don't think they'll be too fussed if they finish first or 2nd in the pool. They have a probably misplaced yet dangerous mindset that they can beat anyone and they might roll over next weekend knowing that they are basically into the QF also ( providing they beat Tonga) England could do with France turning up next week though. They need a test. Wales or Australia will be a much tougher game than they've got in a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 Japan are a really entertaining side to watch. Move the ball so quickly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Japan are a really entertaining side to watch. Move the ball so quickly Can see them beating Scotland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 49 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Can see them beating Scotland! Hope so, they deserve to go through. Just think that their style will actually help the Scots as the Scots like open play for Hogg to exploit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) Scotland are in a tricky spot. They need the BP win against Russia obviously but the Japan game is what like a 4 day turnaround and they clearly need to be in optimum levels of fitness and conditioning to beat these guys. Do they have the squad depth to make wholesale changes against Russia and still hammer them ? Edited October 5, 2019 by Johnnyp Mistake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 This Rugby World Cup has proved the international Cricket Board correct, and that really annoys me as I want to see more nations given a chance at the CWC. But at the Cricket World Cup this year there was no massively weak team, and every game was closely fought. This whole first round of matches in this Rugby World Cup just seem pointless; New Zealand vs Canada and Namibia.. ffs. And now Scotland need a bonus point win vs Russia to have any chance when they come to play Japan, making qualification potentially come down to who can beat the whipping boys by the most. That's not World Cup standard of sport. Yes it tests squad depth over a longer tournament but this is meant to be the best players in the world up against each other, and every game should be a high level contest. Pointless watching 90% of these first round games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 That’s exactly what I used to like about the football World Cup, back in the day. The teams like Zambia where they perhaps didn’t have a 100% understanding of the rules, and would likely get tanked. But they’d have some stand out incredible player that you otherwise wouldn’t have heard of. You would then be that guy, down the park later, with the fancy trick moves. Personally, in football terms, it’s not Germany vs Italy that I’m tuning in for. It’s Chile vs Iran. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Qwpzxjor1 said: This Rugby World Cup has proved the international Cricket Board correct, and that really annoys me as I want to see more nations given a chance at the CWC. But at the Cricket World Cup this year there was no massively weak team, and every game was closely fought. This whole first round of matches in this Rugby World Cup just seem pointless; New Zealand vs Canada and Namibia.. ffs. And now Scotland need a bonus point win vs Russia to have any chance when they come to play Japan, making qualification potentially come down to who can beat the whipping boys by the most. That's not World Cup standard of sport. Yes it tests squad depth over a longer tournament but this is meant to be the best players in the world up against each other, and every game should be a high level contest. Pointless watching 90% of these first round games. When have mismatches (especially involving the Kiwis against minnows) not been the case in rugby world cups? 2019 NZ 71 Namibia 9 2019 NZ 63 Canada 0 --------------------------------- 1987 NZ 70 Italy 6 1995 NZ 145 Japan 17 1999 NZ 101 Italy 3 2003 NZ 91 Tonga 7 2003 NZ 70 Italy 7 2003 NZ 68 Canada 6 2007 NZ 108 Portugal 13 2007 NZ 85 Romania 8 2011 NZ 83 Japan 7 2011 NZ 79 Canada 15 2015 NZ 58 Namibia 14 Edit: Looking at it, 1991 was the one with the fewest hugely one-sided first round games but still it had Scotland beating Japan 47-9 and Zimbabwe 51-12 and Japan beating Zimbabwe 52-8. Edited October 6, 2019 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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