DJ_Villain Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, sne said: Rank FIFA Rank ↑↓ Team Current Point ↑↓ 1 98 (↓-3) Vietnam 1,222.9 (-21.2) 2 117 (↑5) Thailand 1,148.6 3 127 (↓-2) Philippines 1,131.9 4 146 Myanmar 1,057.4 5 155 (↓-1) Malaysia 1,034.9 (-5.9) 6 160 Singapore 1,000.4 7 165 (↑10) Indonesia 985.6 (+28.6) 8 170 (↑8) Cambodia 970.4 (+20.2) 9 185 (↑1) Laos 912.1 10 189 (↑1) Brunei Darussalam 903.9 11 194 Timor-Leste 879.4 Qatar is 51 and obviously everyone agrees they should not have gotten it. For football reasons and every other reason. South east Asia have issues with military dictatorship, civil unrest, LGTBI issues, human rights and so on and so on. Nice weather and beaches thou and that's what the tourist will see. A bit like Russia then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Just now, DJ_Villain said: A bit like Russia then? You think we should give it to them again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Just now, sne said: You think we should give it to them again? Not before we give another country/region a chance… Id argue that Thailand is the last place on Earth where there would be issues with LGBTQ supporters/players attending… They are one of the most sexually liberal nations on the planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, DJ_Villain said: A bit like Russia then? Like I said though Russia or Qatar getting it is one thing but having 3 or 4 nations as hosts and all of them being garbage teams? That's not good for the competition, the comment about the euros and the multi city hosts but no actual automatically qualifying host nation is more interesting That said I also suppose its not that different from Wales, Northern. Ireland and Scotland getting a euros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I don't think countries which haven't ever qualified for a World Cup should be able to buy their way in by hosting it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, DJ_Villain said: Not before we give another country/region a chance… Id argue that Thailand is the last place on Earth where there would be issues with LGBTQ supporters/players attending… They are one of the most sexually liberal nations on the planet How about Malaysia? Indonesia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Just now, villa4europe said: Like I said though Russia or Qatar getting it is one thing but having 3 or 4 nations as hosts and all of them being garbage teams? That's not good for the competition, the comment about the euros and the multi city hosts but no actual automatically qualifying host nation is more interesting That said I also suppose its not that different from Wales, Northern. Ireland and Scotland getting a euros How’s this for a compromise then… The 9 (maybe 10) ASEAN nations could take part in their own qualification to see which nation represents SE Asia at the World Cup which is then joint hosted by all of the countries in the region (like the Euros were)… Then the region gets a World Cup, there would be a guaranteed representative “host nation” who has earned their right to be there and there wouldn’t be an issue of 4-5 lower quality teams taking part and “devaluing” the tournament 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, sne said: How about Malaysia? Indonesia? I’ve never been to Indo, so I don’t know. But Malaysia is fairly liberal… but nowhere near as much as Thailand… from my experience anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, DJ_Villain said: I’ve never been to Indo, so I don’t know. But Malaysia is fairly liberal… but nowhere near as much as Thailand… from my experience anyway From the wiki is doesn't look great. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Malaysia Same-sex sexual activity legal (Penalty: Up to 20 years imprisonment with caning, fines and deportation.[1][2] Vigilante executions, beatings, and torture are also tolerated.[3]) Equal age of consent Freedom of expression Anti-discrimination laws in employment Anti-discrimination laws in the provision of goods and services Anti-discrimination laws in all other areas (incl. indirect discrimination, hate speech) Same-sex marriage(s) Recognition of same-sex couples Stepchild adoption by same-sex couples Adoption by single people regardless of sexual orientation Joint adoption by same-sex couples LGBT people allowed to serve in the military Right to change legal gender Gender change generally impossible. Besides, crossdressing is illegal. Access to IVF for lesbians Commercial surrogacy for gay male couples (Illegal for all couples regardless of sexual orientation)[59] MSMs allowed to donate blood Conversion therapy banned The government promotes it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, sne said: From the wiki is doesn't look great. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Malaysia Same-sex sexual activity legal (Penalty: Up to 20 years imprisonment with caning, fines and deportation.[1][2] Vigilante executions, beatings, and torture are also tolerated.[3]) Equal age of consent Freedom of expression Anti-discrimination laws in employment Anti-discrimination laws in the provision of goods and services Anti-discrimination laws in all other areas (incl. indirect discrimination, hate speech) Same-sex marriage(s) Recognition of same-sex couples Stepchild adoption by same-sex couples Adoption by single people regardless of sexual orientation Joint adoption by same-sex couples LGBT people allowed to serve in the military Right to change legal gender Gender change generally impossible. Besides, crossdressing is illegal. Access to IVF for lesbians Commercial surrogacy for gay male couples (Illegal for all couples regardless of sexual orientation)[59] MSMs allowed to donate blood Conversion therapy banned The government promotes it On paper - no… it doesn’t provide for positive reading… However, I have been there a couple of times… I’ve met same sex couples, I’ve seen people crossdressing… I know that isn’t the be all and end all and it’s anecdotal evidence which is, in the grand scheme of things, worthless… So for me to read that all of these things are banned and illegal surprises me… I would go on holiday there again, 100%… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Davkaus said: I don't think countries which haven't ever qualified for a World Cup should be able to buy their way in by hosting it. Not sure I agree with this. One just outside the top 40 ranking might never have qualified, but have a pretty large football fanbase, whereby hosting it is all they need to start a new generation of footballers better than they ever have. But it should be a fairly rare occurrence, and not be induced by bribery and corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Don't like this 48 teams stuff but I do like the venues and cities hosting. Just need to get to terms with that you can't watch all games at a World Cup anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Zatman said: World Cup has a different minimum capacity stadium than the Euros. Only 11 stadiums fit the World Cup criteria in England and 5 are in London It would be mainly a London tournament if was awarded now Well that hasn’t stopped Qatar being chosen. All 8 stadiums are a maximum of 40mins from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, NoelVilla said: Don't like this 48 teams stuff but I do like the venues and cities hosting. Just need to get to terms with that you can't watch all games at a World Cup anymore. Dare I say it... Thats why Qatar will be a good world cup... I'm terms of travel it'll be the best most fan friendly world cup ever, imagine a world cup in the west Midlands, will never happen again The rest of it will be utter bollocks though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Dare I say it... Thats why Qatar will be a good world cup... I'm terms of travel it'll be the best most fan friendly world cup ever, imagine a world cup in the west Midlands, will never happen again The rest of it will be utter bollocks though Understand what you mean about Qatar in that sense but I wish that people won't be going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, NoelVilla said: Understand what you mean about Qatar in that sense but I wish that people won't be going. To be honest I haven't bothered looking but I half suspect that they qataris will also subsidise it a fair bit to make it very attractive to travelling fans, they won their own airline... Doesnt mean they'll make the flights cheaper but they'll probably stop tournament inflation, 2026 for example id expect the likes of jet blue and South Western to jump by 400% by Qatar Airways will hold, same with these new hotels Still not seen what they plan on doing over beer, no doubt they'll big it up in the fan parks and the charge £12 for a 0.0000001% budweiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 10 hours ago, villa4europe said: To be honest I haven't bothered looking but I half suspect that they qataris will also subsidise it a fair bit to make it very attractive to travelling fans, they won their own airline... Doesnt mean they'll make the flights cheaper but they'll probably stop tournament inflation, 2026 for example id expect the likes of jet blue and South Western to jump by 400% by Qatar Airways will hold, same with these new hotels Still not seen what they plan on doing over beer, no doubt they'll big it up in the fan parks and the charge £12 for a 0.0000001% budweiser English lads buying 500 to see if they can get a buzz going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Throwing your beer in the air comes with a 14 year prison sentence so the English lads are in trouble That one doesn't actually sound too bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Wonder if the US will have their Christian version of Sharia laws fully in place for the 2026 WC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, sne said: Wonder if the US will have their Christian version of Sharia laws fully in place for the 2026 WC? Was thinking that We all laugh and joke about Qatar sending people to prison for 7 years for shagging...different book same nonsense... Less shootings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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