Vive_La_Villa Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Genie said: What did Hamas think would happen after they attacked Israeli civilians on such as scale? That’s the thing with these revenge missions and Martyrs. They don’t think about the consequences for those that have to deal with the aftermath. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meregreen Posted November 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) The only time the Palestinian cause has advanced one inch, it’s been the result of negotiations. Israel will never respond positively to acts of terrorism. They would regard it as rewarding those acts. The problem at the moment, is Israel has a reactionary government that is led by a crook , who’s toehold on power is facilitated by the more extreme elements in Israeli society. The problem on the Palestinian side, is a murderous terrorist group has taken control in Gaza. Until more reasonable people start talking again, this situation will continue. There are better people on both sides, but I think a lot more people are going to die before their voices are heard again. Edited November 10, 2023 by meregreen 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Jareth said: Israel is finding far right bedfellows - because Israel has a far right government who do far right things. No? I think it's worse than that - the far right outside Israel are trying to exploit Jewish / Muslim differences in their own societies, and position themselves as "friends" of the Jewish community and opponents of Antisemitism for reasons that have little to do with Israel's own far-right politics, but everything to do with stoking up hatred in their own societies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 2 hours ago, KentVillan said: I think it's worse than that - the far right outside Israel are trying to exploit Jewish / Muslim differences in their own societies, and position themselves as "friends" of the Jewish community and opponents of Antisemitism for reasons that have little to do with Israel's own far-right politics, but everything to do with stoking up hatred in their own societies. There's a reason why the far right identify so much with Israel. I implore you all to give this a chance and watch it. Whatever you think of Mohammed Hijab, Lowkey is one of the foremost experts on the links between the likes of Tommy Robinson, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson and Douglas Murray. He may be a rapper but he's an excellent investigative journalists around on this particular topic. Get through the Piers Morgan stuff and listen to the links. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Jareth said: Hyperbolic Jewish Chronicle strikes again - I'm glad folks can see this rag for what it is - the worst sort of tabloid. I have never seen a "at least Hitler and the Nazis..." argument ever land. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 41 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I have never seen a "at least Hitler and the Nazis..." argument ever land. That goes for both sides. ‘Israel is acting like nazis’ is a common argument heard around London every day. Usually espoused by young people with very little nuance to their stance other than what they’ve been fed by whoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, omariqy said: There's a reason why the far right identify so much with Israel. I implore you all to give this a chance and watch it. Whatever you think of Mohammed Hijab, Lowkey is one of the foremost experts on the links between the likes of Tommy Robinson, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson and Douglas Murray. He may be a rapper but he's an excellent investigative journalists around on this particular topic. Get through the Piers Morgan stuff and listen to the links. This is the left’s answer to Joe Rogan. Nothing less. If you give a hate preacher like Hijab as much unopposed time as this you’re as dumb as Joe giving Jordan Peterson a whole episode to espouse his far right bs. This isn’t what will bring this conflict to an end. It’ll be moderate people like Rabin and Arafat talking rather than preaching like Rogan or Lowkey, only working hard to sell crap to their echo-chamber audience. ’We don’t have a clear picture of what happened on October 7th.’ - lowkey Really? Edited November 10, 2023 by magnkarl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, magnkarl said: That goes for both sides. ‘Israel is acting like nazis’ is a common argument heard around London every day. Usually espoused by young people with very little nuance to their stance other than what they’ve been fed by whoever. Everybody calls everything Nazi's nowadays, there's a term for this I can't remember. But this is different, it's a deliberate rhetorical argument that involves attributing some redeeming qualities to the real Nazis. It's a very strange line of thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, magnkarl said: This is the left’s answer to Joe Rogan. Nothing less. If you give a hate preacher like Hijab as much unopposed time as this you’re as dumb as Joe giving Jordan Peterson a whole episode to espouse his far right bs. This isn’t what will bring this conflict to an end. It’ll be moderate people like Rabin and Arafat talking rather than preaching like Rogan or Lowkey, only working hard to sell crap to their echo-chamber audience. ’We don’t have a clear picture of what happened on October 7th.’ - lowkey Really? Hijab doesn't speak. Lowkey does. Listen to what he says about the various links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HeyAnty Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, meregreen said: Israel wouldn’t be in Gaza now if the events of October 7th hadn’t happened. Why they in the west bank these past few days then? Edited November 10, 2023 by HeyAnty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 They're saying it was a misfired missile again: Quote Israel military says misfired militant projectile hit Shifa Hospital By Reuters Staff People, including Palestinian children, who fled their house due to Israeli strikes, gather at Al Shifa hospital where they shelter, amid the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestinian Islamist group Hamas, in Gaza City November 7, 2023. REUTERS/Stringer/File Photo JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel’s military said on Friday that a misfired projectile launched by militant groups in Gaza had hit Shifa Hospital earlier in the day, dismissing reports that the blast was caused by an Israeli air strike. “An examination of IDF operational systems indicates that a misfired projectile launched by terrorist organizations inside the Gaza Strip hit the Shifa Hospital,” the military said in statement. “The misfired projectile was aimed at IDF troops operating in the vicinity,” it added. Reporting by Maytaal Angel; Editing by Crispian Balmer Reuters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, HeyAnty said: Why they in the west bank these past few days then? Because these things have an awful propensity to spread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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