meme Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) If we appoint Wagner, one of these days somebody is going to 'slip' their finger on the G and the N... Edited October 4, 2016 by meme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Richard said: Well I hope you're good Mr Wagner, to be honest in terms of comparisons you haven't got much in our recent history to be troubled about. I had hoped for Rowett but the best of luck to you. There were worse choices. You represent a gamble I hope to **** it pays off Is this done or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Richard said: Well I hope you're good Mr Wagner, to be honest in terms of comparisons you haven't got much in our recent history to be troubled about. I had hoped for Rowett but the best of luck to you. There were worse choices. You represent a gamble I hope to **** it pays off Huh? What did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodsBarkeep Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) 'Won 18' Edited October 4, 2016 by GodsBarkeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Wagner interview tomorrow - (well if you believe twitter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Who on twitter? The usual ITK crew or someone with a twinkle of respectability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Just now, GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS said: Who on twitter? The usual ITK crew or someone with a twinkle of respectability? Worse than that - its from twitter via TBAR ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted October 4, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2016 What's this about required win rates for the new manager? Let's take a looksee. Points required to get into playoffs in past 7 seasons 15/16 - 74pts 14/15 - 78 13/14 - 72 12/13 - 68 11/12 - 75 10/11 - 75 09/10 - 70 1. Maximum - 78pts 2. Average - 73 3. Minimum - 68 Games left - 35 Points so far - 10 To at least reach the points required in the above scenarios 1. 68pts required (17 wins = 51pts + 17) = 48.6% win rate 2. 63pts (14 wins = 42pts + 21) = 40.0% 3. 58pts (12 wins = 36pts + 22) = 34.3% So even in the most difficult year to reach the playoffs, 14/15, at this point in the season we would not have needed a 50% win rate. That's not to say it will be remotely easy to do. Just that it's not quite as insurmountable as is being made out. Plus I still probably foolishly think this squad once it is used right will steamroll sides too. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meme Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, GodsBarkeep said: 'Won' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Regarding thw carva link the mail link him as manager of omonia of romaina, well in actual fact its omonia of Cyprus. Great reporting yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, BOF said: What's this about required win rates for the new manager? Let's take a looksee. Points required to get into playoffs in past 7 seasons 15/16 - 74pts 14/15 - 78 13/14 - 72 12/13 - 68 11/12 - 75 10/11 - 75 09/10 - 70 1. Maximum - 78pts 2. Average - 73 3. Minimum - 68 Games left - 35 Points so far - 10 To at least reach the points required in the above scenarios 1. 68pts required (17 wins = 51pts + 17) = 48.6% win rate 2. 63pts (14 wins = 42pts + 21) = 40.0% 3. 58pts (12 wins = 36pts + 22) = 34.3% So even in the most difficult year to reach the playoffs, 14/15, at this point in the season we would not have needed a 50% win rate. That's not to say it will be remotely easy to do. Just that it's not quite as insurmountable as is being made out. Plus I still probably foolishly think this squad once it is used right will steamroll sides too. Sorry, what are the plus numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammoth10 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BOF said: What's this about required win rates for the new manager? Let's take a looksee. Points required to get into playoffs in past 7 seasons 15/16 - 74pts 14/15 - 78 13/14 - 72 12/13 - 68 11/12 - 75 10/11 - 75 09/10 - 70 1. Maximum - 78pts 2. Average - 73 3. Minimum - 68 Games left - 35 Points so far - 10 To at least reach the points required in the above scenarios 1. 68pts required (17 wins = 51pts + 17) = 48.6% win rate 2. 63pts (14 wins = 42pts + 21) = 40.0% 3. 58pts (12 wins = 36pts + 22) = 34.3% So even in the most difficult year to reach the playoffs, 14/15, at this point in the season we would not have needed a 50% win rate. That's not to say it will be remotely easy to do. Just that it's not quite as insurmountable as is being made out. Plus I still probably foolishly think this squad once it is used right will steamroll sides too. Isn't that not losing a game though? Or have I misread....Surely most teams will end up with at least 7/8 defeats. Edited October 4, 2016 by Mammoth10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 4, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2016 Just now, Woodytom said: Sorry, what are the plus numbers? Getting draws with the remaining games. It's all based around the minimum win percentage based on the games remaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 20 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Wagner would have to be absolutely mental to rule himself out. It doesn't mean we are interested. Not really we are in such a bigger mess. He could ruin his career like the last four managers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Just now, BOF said: Getting draws with the remaining games. So you get the points but it doesn't affect the win ratio. Right I get it. Your stats are a bit flawed then as we're not going 35 games unbeaten are we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 20 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Wagner would have to be absolutely mental to rule himself out. It doesn't mean we are interested. Not really we are in such a bigger mess. He could ruin his career like the last four managers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 4, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Mammoth10 said: Isn't that not losing a game though? Or have I misread.... That's true, but it's also drawing a hell of a lot. I'd gladly swap out a few draws for losses if I was also swapping out a few draws for wins. In that sense you'd be increasing the win percentage. I was trying to demonstrate the minimum win percentage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 4, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Woodytom said: Right I get it. Your stats are a bit flawed then as we're not going 35 games unbeaten are we? That's not what I'm trying to demonstrate. See post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Just now, BOF said: That's not what I'm trying to demonstrate. See post above. Ok, first of all I appreciate the effort. I tried to work it out myself but I couldn't be arsed. However, they're completely unrealistic. For instance, I think it's more feasible for us to gain a 60% win ratio than us to gain a 40% ratio but remain unbeaten. I get what your saying in that 'it's possible', but in terms of likelihood, the chances are very very slim indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, hippo said: Worse than that - its from twitter via TBAR ! There's Nigerian bank transfer emails that come with better endorsements than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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