Jareth Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 By election results due later - should put the shits up a few backbench tory bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, Xela said: Pent up demand to travel is huge. Some of my clients work closely with airports, travel agents, etc and they're rushed off their feet. But then the airports are ****, fights cancelled all over the shop. Delayed flights costing them millions. The debts of the 2 covid years now rampant inflation and strike threats. The industry barely made any money at the best of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I'm surprised that you can get 7/2 on the Tories retaining Honition and Tiverton in tonight's by election. Lib Dems are 1/4 on. If the Lib Dems over turn a record 24k majority that would be unreal. You can get 40/1 on the Tories holding onto Wakefield with Labour 1/200. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 23, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, markavfc40 said: Lib Dems are 1/4 on. If the Lib Dems over turn a record 24k majority that would be unreal. It actually wouldn't. They've already done it this parliament, North Shropshire They overturned a 23k majority where they were third placed a further 7k behind. The parallels are uncanny but this is arguably easier as the last election was 36k / 12k / 9k (Con / Lab/ Lib - rough figures). North Shropshire was 36k / 12k / 6k and the Libs had absolutely no history of coming anwhere near in that seat, here they absolutely do, they were a firm second until the LibDems committed suicide in the coalition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, bickster said: It actually wouldn't. They've already done it this parliament, North Shropshire You sure on this? I am sure I have read on numerous occasions that in terms of numbers, just over 24k majority, it would be the biggest margin overturned in a by election although there have been bigger swings in percentage terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 23, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: You sure on this? I am sure I have read on numerous occasions that in terms of numbers, just over 24k majority, it would be the biggest margin overturned in a by election although there have been bigger swings in percentage terms. It possibly will be the biggest but only by a couple of hundred on North Shropshire and like I said the LibDems were in third place both times and were further back in North Shropshire than they are here by 3k votes The swing for Tory to LibDem in North Shropshire was 30k, they don’t need to achieve that here to win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StanBalaban Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, markavfc40 said: I'm surprised that you can get 7/2 on the Tories retaining Honition and Tiverton in tonight's by election. Lib Dems are 1/4 on. If the Lib Dems over turn a record 24k majority that would be unreal. You can get 40/1 on the Tories holding onto Wakefield with Labour 1/200. You have people like Hugh Fernley-Whittingstall saying on Twitter that he's a staunch Green voter but will be voting LibDem in order to oust the Tories, and yet many are giving him grief for "abandoning principles". People just don't understand that it's a game of chess to gradually get to where you want, rather than a direct sprint. I'm surprised the Greens didn't stand down to avoid splitting the vote. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 That Tiverton and Honiton candidate list is a right wing/far right mesh pit. As well as the Tories we have the Heritage Party, Reform UK, The For Britain Movement and UKIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 That would be pretty spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ml1dch Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Lols. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 9 hours ago, markavfc40 said: I'm surprised that you can get 7/2 on the Tories retaining Honition and Tiverton in tonight's by election. Lib Dems are 1/4 on. If the Lib Dems over turn a record 24k majority that would be unreal. You can get 40/1 on the Tories holding onto Wakefield with Labour 1/200. Hope you put money on What magnificent results, the Tories are ****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted June 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) Cheerio, you little prick. The handwritten date suggests it was probably written in advance, and with the knowledge they were going to get smashed in both. Edited June 24, 2022 by ml1dch 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 24, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Cheerio, you little prick. The handwritten date suggests it was probably written in advance, and with the knowledge they were going to get smashed in both. I really don't know why he's bothered, it won't make any difference to Johnson, the Tories or him personally. Expect a knighthood at some point because it's most likely an attempt to deflect attention from Johnson. even if it is genuine, it's too late, the writing has been on the wall for ages and they had an opportunity to get rid of him which the party as a whole passed up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 On 06/06/2022 at 08:26, djdabush said: It sounds like he will win the vote and there's no way he'll resign. Expect a hammering in these upcoming by-elections and a lot of tory mps feeling worried about their future. Call me Nostradamus. Wonder how many MPs are regretting their decision in that no confidence vote. I'm guessing we will see the 1922 rulebook getting torn up in the very near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, bickster said: I really don't know why he's bothered, it won't make any difference to Johnson, the Tories or him personally. I don't really get the takes of "he's resigning and this undermines Johnson" and the talk of "take responsibility" is aimed at him. He's clearly been told "when we lose those by-elections, you are taking the blame and I expect your resignation letter published before the sun is up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, bickster said: I really don't know why he's bothered, it won't make any difference to Johnson, the Tories or him personally. Expect a knighthood at some point because it's most likely an attempt to deflect attention from Johnson. even if it is genuine, it's too late, the writing has been on the wall for ages and they had an opportunity to get rid of him which the party as a whole passed up Strangely I took it the other way. The 'somebody needs to take responsibility' read as 'well, the useless, wavey haired cock socket who leads the party won't take responsibility, so I will'. Maybe I'm being too generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 24, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I don't really get the takes of "he's resigning and this undermines Johnson" and the talk of "take responsibility" is aimed at him. He's clearly been told "when we lose those by-elections, you are taking the blame and I expect your resignation letter published before the sun is up". Exactly, it wasn't Oliver Dowden that lost those two byelections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, bickster said: I really don't know why he's bothered, it won't make any difference to Johnson, the Tories or him personally. Expect a knighthood at some point because it's most likely an attempt to deflect attention from Johnson. even if it is genuine, it's too late, the writing has been on the wall for ages and they had an opportunity to get rid of him which the party as a whole passed up I'm not sure it's an effort to deflect from Boris. The 'we cannot carry on with business as usual. Somebody must take responsibility' reads as a bit of a dig to me. Think it more likely he's trying to position himself away from Johnson ahead of him getting removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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