Amo69 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Out of interest what's the support for Villa like out there? Are we well known? Also why on earth would anybody support them? If you want a true true true fan, There is only one other than me that I know. He actually signed up here before couple of days but he didn't know how to put posts. I know couple of people who just watch the games with us and just support them because they know we rarely get happy with a win. We are well known in those who watches european football. But mostly doesn't know how big the club is! I've been angry couple of times when some people couldn't know the difference between Villa and West Ham ! Some of them thinks I support West Ham ! haha. And why I've supported them ? It's a long story, I hated Villa as the most team I hate 2004, Yet I liked them in the same year ! haha. But I just used to check the results later as I stopped watching european leagues because I've been to the USA for a while. Long story which I might talk about later. lol. Whatever you're reasons for supporting Villa it doesn't matter anymore, you're stuck with them! I really hope you're right about the Saudi interest in the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Where's Abdulaziz when you need some ITK reassurance? Well, I've read what's written. If my understanding of the article is right, I don't think it has anything that would change my thinking even if I didn't have an info about Al-Baltan. And look what is said here in the article : “Randy Lerner has grown increasingly frustrated at the club, but I don’t think announcing the club was up for sale before a buyer was in place has helped the process. Do you think Lerner would announce that the club is for sale without having a buyer? From our previous knowledge, Even with players costed nothing we've use to make it silently, so what do you think about a whole takeover? It's not the way of our board. We've been hearing since couple of years that Lerner wanting off. Yet he only announced it now. Do you think he was still interested ? Or he might have a buyer or a couple of them and he knows they're interested and they've agreed the price atleast? << I'm talking here without even mentioning what I've heard from the people who gave me the information or even what we're certain about with knowing that Al-Baltan is interested in buying an English team. Anyway this article haven't changed my understanding of the situation. Ofcourse I could be wrong. But what I'm hearing also is certainly different. It also says in the same article : “Once a genuine buyer comes forward, I would think you are looking at at least a period of three months to complete a sale,” I'm not even sure when did they agree their negotiations "if they did already". I don't think the club would say anything until everything is finished. So there is a good chance that they've agreed everything (as I've been told) and yet haven't finalized anything. Anyway I still don't have any further information. Im confused ? Do you have information or not ? why do you think it unrealistic that Lerner puts the club up for sale - but has no buyer...to me that seems the entirely logical conclusion. tell us what you know and how you know it I have an overview information. I've been told from a relative to Al-Baltan that they were negotiating with Villa. Then I've been told they're in the last stages and they've agreed the price...etc I just don't have the full details that would let me claim anything. Even if Al-Baltan himself told me I'm buying the Villa, I don't know how the process will go exactly. That's I'm trying to distinguish between what I've been told, and what I think (Even before I've heard anything). Anyway I'm still waiting for more information and details. And as I said here about how I knew that. It's from someone very close to Al-Baltan. Actually one his relatives. In a round about way - you are calming to have knowledge though (nothing wrong with that) - I just find the 'Yes I know something' 'actually I don't' a bit perplexing. No disrespect - But I don't any confidence that this will come to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Smetrov. I understand what you're saying, - I just find the 'Yes I know something' 'actually I don't' a bit perplexing It's not this way. Put it this way, Let's say the buyer himself said to you he's going to buy and he's on advanced stages. Would you say you know or you don't ? For me I'd say I know, But I still need to know the details to know whether Lerner is only considering him or still negotiating with others. I don't know how takeovers usually finishes, nor I know how long it takes....etc That's why I couldn't say something about it because I only hear it from the buyer side, that they're confident of buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Smetrov. I understand what you're saying, - I just find the 'Yes I know something' 'actually I don't' a bit perplexing It's not this way. Put it this way, Let's say the buyer himself said to you he's going to buy and he's on advanced stages. Would you say you know or you don't ? For me I'd say I know, But I still need to know the details to know whether Lerner is only considering him or still negotiating with others. I don't know how takeovers usually finishes, nor I know how long it takes....etc That's why I couldn't say something about it because I only hear it from the buyer side, that they're confident of buying. I would say I've heard XXX is the advanced stages of buying Aston Villa - I wouldn't try and qualify it with 'But I don't know the details' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh621 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 If we assume a buyer has agreed a price with Lerner how long do we reckon it would take to process? I don't really know anything about this sort of thing but i bet there's a shit ton of paperwork, waiting around, processing, going over every little detail AND working all that around two parties' busy schedules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 If we assume a buyer has agreed a price with Lerner how long do we reckon it would take to process? I don't really know anything about this sort of thing but i bet there's a shit ton of paperwork, waiting around, processing, going over every little detail AND working all that around two parties' busy schedules... It might take ages after a price is agreed - but pretty sure the internet and media in general would be in meltdown were a deal that close........you can't sneak a £200m deal through under everyones nones without a whimper... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 21, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2014 If we assume a buyer has agreed a price with Lerner how long do we reckon it would take to process? I don't really know anything about this sort of thing but i bet there's a shit ton of paperwork, waiting around, processing, going over every little detail AND working all that around two parties' busy schedules... It might take ages after a price is agreed - but pretty sure the internet and media in general would be in meltdown were a deal that close........you can't sneak a £200m deal through under everyones nones without a whimper... Didn't the Man City deal just come out of no where? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I don't remember hearing much about Fulham till right before it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 It's probably because we didn't care. Ask Man City and Fulham what they knew before it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) Thaksin Shinawatra was looking for a buyer in 2008 through the whole summer. Thaksin did not publicly announce he wanted to sell like Randy, but it was widely acknowledged that he was looking for a buyer/investor. Nobody had a sniff about Mansour from what I recall, certainly not in the media. Mansour was in talks to buy Everton too. City had no money to spend whatsoever that summer, I think a wealthy member of their supporters trust helped purchase Vincent Kompany before a takeover was officially agreed. Edited June 21, 2014 by GENTLEMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Thaksin Shinawatra was looking for a buyer in 2008 through the whole summer. Thaksin did not publicly announce he wanted to sell like Randy, but it was widely acknowledged that he was looking for a buyer/investor. Nobody had a sniff about Mansour from what I recall, certainly not in the media. Mansour was in talks to buy Everton too. City had no money to spend whatsoever that summer, I think a wealthy member of their supporters trust helped purchase Vincent Kompany before a takeover was officially agreed. Wasn't their squad already half decent thought? Sven bought some good players like Elano in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villan4Life Posted June 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) new names http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-takeover-talks-two-3739786?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Jun 21, 2014 22:30 By Alan Nixon, Neil Moxley Josh Harris and David Blitzer are looking to buy an English club, know the Villans' current owner Randy Lerner and have been in discussions for weeks Getty Under new management? A Harris/Blitzer buyout at Villa could spell the end of boss Paul Lambert Billionaire Americans Josh Harris and David Blitzer are looking at a major takeover of crisis club Aston Villa, write Alan Nixon and Neil Moxley in the Sunday People. The pair have been scouring England for a football team to buy that will add to their impressive portfolio. Mega-rich Harris and Blitzer recently bought ice hockey and basketball franchises, and have now turned their attention to the Premier League. The duo know Randy Lerner - who put Villa on sale last month - and have been discussing figures for the past few weeks, with the price falling to around £150 million. Harris and Blitzer are investment experts and have specialised in ‘distressed’ companies. There does not seem to be much of a profit margin in the Birmingham club, but they have been in touch with American friends in the game to ask their opinions and seem keen. The pair, who are central figures in the Global Management investment company, have been using leading figures at top clubs for advice about a purchase. Harris and Blitzer have been behind many success stories, including the American Idol TV show and a leading cruise line. If the pair decide to take the plunge it will be a big boost for Villa, but could also spell the end for boss Paul Lambert. Villa are in desperate need of new ownership with several stars sweating on their future after the club decided to shelve all contract talks. Several of Lambert’s top players were promised fresh pay contracts at the season’s end. Fabian Delph, Gabby Agbonlahor and Ron Vlaar are all due to thrash out new terms as they enter the final year of their deals. But agents have so far hit a brick wall as they have attempted to broker agreements for their clients. The word that has come back from Villa’s hierarchy is that it is impossible for the club to commit to lengthy extensions while a sale process is ongoing. Chief executive Paul Faulkner is part of the FA delegation in Brazil and so far Villa have added Joe Cole and Philippe Senderos to their ranks. Losing key players is a worry with interest from QPR in captain Vlaar, who is a key figure in the dressing room. The centre-half has grown in stature in his two seasons in Birmingham and is attracting attention with his displays at the heart of Holland’s defence in the World Cup. Edited June 21, 2014 by Villan4Life 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Yes yes yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) Just because it always gets mentioned, Harris is on forbes as worth $2.9b. Can't seem to find anything on Blitzer, but apparently the Blackstone firm he belongs to manage assets worth an eye watering $43b. Don't think those people would much like him spaffing it on a premier league club mind you. Edited June 21, 2014 by KitKat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 He owns the sixers (who I support) Seems to be doing the right things so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 If Vlaar goes to QPR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Haven't those two names come up before? Harris definitely has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Yes it has. Harris link started from Matt Law following the Sixers PR twitter account. He was quick to deny anything of it, Rory Smith did the same and a few days later Rory Smith put a piece out in The Times claiming Lerner sold the club three months ago. Maybe it was to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 21, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2014 I have no idea who they are, or what they're worth, but please come and take the club away from Lerner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Yea you can look them up and see they are worth around 5 billion USD. However it is the investment group they represent buying assets they have $160 billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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