Stevo985 Posted June 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2016 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Spoiler Only just realised that and Are the same person. Edited June 21, 2016 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Enjoyable episode and it looked great though I agree with some issues raised, mainly Rickon not swerving, thought Prometheus had taught everyone how dumb that is, and Jon being a hot head. However, one other thing I wondered was how Sansa got to be with Littlefinger and the Knights of the Vale. Surely she would have had to have ridden wide around and behind Ramsay's forces to meet Littlefinger? Seems pretty risky to be riding alone around Winterfell when you're wanted by Ramsay Bolton and there's a battle nearby. Didn't take her long to find them and ride to the battle either. Am I missing something? Edited June 21, 2016 by Ginko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2016 She'd probably already sent ravens or something and was waiting on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2016 Or its a TV show and not real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Rickon could have just walked backward and seen the arrows coming, and so dodged them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Arrows in the sky aren't easy to see and by the time he did see it it'd probably already be stuck in him. As for Sansa, she was in the camp the night before the fight (I was convinced Ramsay would do a surprise night attack on them) so Christ knows how she circumvented the battle and met up with Littlefinger. Suspend your disbelief I guess. The speed and ease of travel within the world has been a particular gripe of mine this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 instead of shooting the giant with an arrow ....he could have just taken out jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 6 hours ago, BOF said: I must be the only one who loved Ramsey's mischievous demeanour His shrug and facial expression below @ 02:42 when the first arrow misses. His smug satisfaction on launching the second one @ 02:55. I thought he was excellent villainous comic relief. We've lost one of the best characters in the show now IMO although I fully appreciate that it was presumably necessary for the overall story arc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqMPkg1QXEY EDIT : And why has this not embedded ? Nope I mentioned yesterday he was great. The actor was brilliant for me, played it superbly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Meath_Villan said: instead of shooting the giant with an arrow ....he could have just taken out jon Three mistakes, really. Shooting Rickon instead of Jon. Shooting the giant instead of Jon. Continuing to try and shoot Jon the third and fourth time, at short range, when he was easily blocking them. Shoulda gone for the sword! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) I wouldn't have minded the cheesy "you think the battle is over and all hope is lost, but here comes more good guys at the last second" charge, if it wasn't like the third or fourth time they've done it on the show, it's getting a bit silly. 7 hours ago, BG_Villa_Fan said: "Melisandre, please bring my brother back" "No, LoL has no use for him." "But how do you know that, he's the true heir of Winterfell and Warden of the North, please give it a try!" "No. I have no powers" "Alright then, let's bury him next to dad" Based on Jon's conversations after he was brought back, about how there was just nothingness after death, and him telling Melisandre not to bring him back again, I could see why he wouldn't want to try. Edited June 21, 2016 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Ramsey was one of the worst characters, not sinister or funny. And I think they should have finished him off in a less dramatic way, like a stray arrow from one of his men or something like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) 45 minutes ago, useless said: Ramsey was one of the worst characters, not sinister or funny. And I think they should have finished him off in a less dramatic way, like a stray arrow from one of his men or something like that. This gif says otherwise... And there was absolutely no way they'd end him so unsatisfactorily after all the pain he's caused other characters. There'd be no catharsis and it'd make absolutely no dramatic sense, and after all, this is drama. I actually wondered whether they'd keep him alive to torture or maybe give Theon as a gift after everything has been settled, but I suppose it'd be more dangerous if he were kept alive so his demise was fitting. He was a great character and well-acted, if a little obvious by the end so part if me is glad he's gone as he didn't gave another gear to shift into or another layer to unravel. He was still bloody brilliant though and now there's a gaping void in the cast of villains. Edited June 21, 2016 by Ginko 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 4 hours ago, Ginko said: mainly Rickon not swerving, thought Prometheus had taught everyone how dumb that is I'm not convinced rickon will have seen that one... its being blown out of proportion IMO yes as a viewer it makes perfect sense to swerve, to a character who in GoT I think is around 7 so at this point is meant to be about 9/10 years old is it really common sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 13 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Not really. Like the red woman said, he might have been brought back for that very moment. "You might have been brought back so you can die today" We still haven't had the big reveal about who his real parents are. I reckon his character has a while to run yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Was it me or did Jon sound more northern this week? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 It's all gone a bit Hollywood really. Like they're chasing ratings by giving people what they want. Still entertaining, obviously, but not the GoT I've enjoyed on so many levels since the first episode. Maybe it's cos they've overtaken the books I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Probably be two years till the next series in hope of the Tolkien wannabe to finish a bloody book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 8 hours ago, BOF said: I must be the only one who loved Ramsey's mischievous demeanour His shrug and facial expression below @ 02:42 when the first arrow misses. His smug satisfaction on launching the second one @ 02:55. I thought he was excellent villainous comic relief. We've lost one of the best characters in the show now IMO although I fully appreciate that it was presumably necessary for the overall story arc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqMPkg1QXEY EDIT : And why has this not embedded ? I agree, you need a good villain and he played the part superbly in my eyes. A great character who was a total and utter bastard. I will miss him now he is not in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I don't agree at all with Ramsay being a "great character", he was one step off twirling a moustache, he was just.... evil and crazy, not so much depth and motivations as mental illness? He was occasionally entertaining, but pretty one dimensional, IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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