Dodgyknees Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I still want Lambert to stay, my confidence was knocked a bit recently, but I still believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Basically sums up what I feel http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10263071/midseason-premier-league-report-card Goodman: Christian Benteke, after a phenomenal breakout year, has fallen off the face of the earth, negatively affecting both Villa's offensive output Probably not helping him when we spend more time in our own half than any other team................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Finally I don't have a doomed assessment of our club. I have however right from the start of Lambert's tenure voiced my concerns that he would make us into another Norwich. A team full of gusto and spirit but lacking in any real quality. I feel that original opinion to date has been vilified. Don't you mean vindicated rather than vilified? Actually I would say that Lambert has disappointed me by not even turning us into another Norwich. I thought Norwich under Lambert played decent football even though some of the players were a bit lacking in quality. They were certainly better to watch in their first season after promotion than Villa have been (mostly) since he took over. My hope was that he would bring to Villa the same ability (as I saw it) to get the most out of players, with maybe some additional investment in players to take us to a higher level than what we saw with him at Norwich. So far we seem to be struggling to even reach that level. Yes mate that's the word and many thanks for the correction. Post now corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) I seriously doubt Lambert told the players to not worry about the result You actually don't get what I'm saying. That's OK. Well explain what you're saying then? No need to talk like that. Edited January 9, 2014 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 back to us .....is there a danger, that this job/task of ours was much bigger than most of us imagined. ....just a thought. There's that and also not understanding the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 They think we will finish on 40 points and only 31 will be needed to stay up http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2536382/West-Ham-Sunderland-Fulham-Sportsmails-Premier-League-relegation-predictions.html I we finihsed 12th it would of been a good season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heid3ster Posted January 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2014 The Guardian has an interesting write-up showing key stats for all PL teams at the halfway stage for the season. Clearly the most worrying stats there are possession and passing accuracy (which are obviously linked -- teams that can pass better are able to keep the ball better). 14th for shots per game and conversion rate need to be worked on also, that's due to the counter-attacking game we play, current poor finishing from our attackers, and our above-noted inability to pass/keep the ball. Our positive stats seem to balance out the poor ones, leaving us with an overall rating of 10th in the league. My feeling is that if Lambert gets one or two guys in this transfer window who can boost those passing and possession stats, we'll at least solidify our current mid-table standing and likely improve on it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 The Guardian has an interesting write-up showing key stats for all PL teams at the halfway stage for the season. Clearly the most worrying stats there are possession and passing accuracy (which are obviously linked -- teams that can pass better are able to keep the ball better). 14th for shots per game and conversion rate need to be worked on also, that's due to the counter-attacking game we play, current poor finishing from our attackers, and our above-noted inability to pass/keep the ball. Our positive stats seem to balance out the poor ones, leaving us with an overall rating of 10th in the league. My feeling is that if Lambert gets one or two guys in this transfer window who can boost those passing and possession stats, we'll at least solidify our current mid-table standing and likely improve on it. If that doesn't scream 'WE NEED A NEW MIDFIELD!' I don't know what will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa-revolution Posted January 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2014 A new midfield? Yes. A new manager? No. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Have to admit, I think dismissing Lambert is such a bad idea that I find the thread title offensive and annoying. I just realized I've been avoiding the thread hoping it would drop off the first page. Can we not rename it something less inflammatory? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 It's not immediately clear why all those low rankings from WhoScored.com would average out as 10th. I can't find anything on their site that explains it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I we finihsed 12th it would of been a good season With the best will in the world, it would have been an average, mid-table sort of season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 It's not immediately clear why all those low rankings from WhoScored.com would average out as 10th. I can't find anything on their site that explains it. I believe that's on a scale of where other teams rank according to the stats. Our defensive stats (which have taken a tumble during Vlaar's absence) appear to be balancing out our attacking stats. I'm not sure the graphic shows all of the stats that are in consideration, either - they are gathered from Whoscored.com, so maybe other stats not shown here are figured in -- blocks, saves, etc? Just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I don't think it's fair to assume that they weren't going to get scolded for losing. It's not like an inept home defeat has been anything unusual or uncommon over the past couple of years. And I think you underestimate the comments of a manager on his players. Otherwise we could all do it. I think it's very fair to make the assumption and it played out in front of our eyes. We have no way of knowing though. I seriously doubt Lambert told the players to not worry about the result and I don't have a hard time believing that he was pretty pissed off after we lost. And if Paul wasn't pissed off, all the more reason why we should be, and are... But for now, bring on the Gunners. I'm desperate for a win... a point... some spirit please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Have to admit, I think dismissing Lambert is such a bad idea that I find the thread title offensive and annoying. I just realized I've been avoiding the thread hoping it would drop off the first page. Can we not rename it something less inflammatory? Hear, hear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Personally due to Lambert's record with us the title of the thread is exactly right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 FOOTBALL 365 have the debate for us! http://www.football365.com/faves/9108140/Debate365 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 FOOTBALL 365 have the debate for us! http://www.football365.com/faves/9108140/Debate365 The last line in "the defence" on that article is so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 FOOTBALL 365 have the debate for us! http://www.football365.com/faves/9108140/Debate365 The last line in "the defence" on that article is so true. It’s the best article I read on Villa in a long time. It pretty much echoes the argument going on in my head. For what’s its worth the end sums it up for me and I think PL should be given the time to implement his plan. However Daniel Storey hits the nail on the head for me too in this paragraph "The sad conclusion is that Fabian Delph is the only player in Aston Villa's first team squad that has improved on last season. One or two and you could blame the troops, 10-15 and you question their leader. Surely the point of managing younger players is that you improve them? Without that, he has nothing, and standing still is rarely good enough." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I agree with both sides of the argument and I think, if this were a normal managerial role, he'd be under more pressure from more sides right now. However, it's a fairly unique job given the nature of cost cutting that has been evidently needed. Standing still is indeed rarely good enough, but I think we'd all take standing still for 2 seasons right now if it means that we can add quality in the long run (i.e: the summer onwards). I'd also say that Ciaran Clark has improved by the way, and arguably Baker too (although I still think he's far too rash at times). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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