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No, 3 other teams will be shit enough to keep them up………maybe.

She’s probably sat at home with a tub of popcorn, enjoying every minute of watching the filth her dog whistle brought out from under their stones.

Marched with the NHS too.

I marched with the miners. Went with a coach party from Land Rover. One of the moments in my life where I felt it was the right thing to do.

Bravermans rhetoric has consequences. She’s either too stupid to realise it, or this is exactly what she wanted. I’ll go for the latter.

I’m always nauseated when the Right wing thugs wrap themselves in flags and spout shit about how patriotic they are. They espouse non of the ideals we fought that war for. I lost a couple of family members in the last war. They gave their lives fighting against exactly the kind of Nationalist crap these morons spew out.

Probably only one portaloo.

There is something vaguely absurd about people wishing to ban a March calling for a ceasefire. aka, an armistice, on armistice day.I just hope there isn’t any trouble. It would only give ammunition to those who think Cruella is right.

Because these things have an awful propensity to spread.

The only time the Palestinian cause has advanced one inch, it’s been the result of negotiations. Israel will never respond positively to acts of terrorism. They would regard it as rewarding those acts. The problem at the moment, is Israel has a reactionary government that is led by a crook , who’s toehold on power is facilitated by the more extreme elements in Israeli society. The problem on the Palestinian side, is a murderous terrorist group has taken control in Gaza. Until more reasonable people start talking again, this situation will continue. There are better people on both sides, but I think a lot more people are going to die before their voices are heard again.

Israel wouldn’t be in Gaza now if the events of October 7th hadn’t happened.

Disingenuous. The current situation in Gaza, was very much triggered by the events of October the 7th.

Lots of nasty things in jungles. He should fit in well.

Wonder why they waited till October the 7th then. Did something happen that day.

I don’t see Israel exporting terrorism around the globe.

Aren’t they second in the Eredivisie. They won’t be a pushover.

Where were you

If Dendoncker and Chambers play, I’ll be seriously worried.

Like I said, there are no clean wars, only wars that inflict immense suffering on innocents. This is not Genocide. Barbarrosa, the Holocaust, Cambodia, Armenia, Rwanda, was Genocide. This doesn’t even come close to those.

They’re imploding as a Party.

Trying to pigeonhole entire communities into one type, is a mistake. I’ve no doubt it does take a fairly strong person to live that close to people, who have amongst them an element who would happily cut your throat. And I have immense respect for anyone who knowing that, can still harbour goodwill to them. On the other hand, I saw a clip yesterday of a West Bank settler walk up to a Palestinian , and simply shoot him, all while an Israeli soldier watched on. Total opposites. One can only hope that the more enlightened elements from both communities will eventually prevail. We seem an awfully long way from that though.

We’ll have to disagree on that then. To me it’s war. In the worst possible environment, a heavily built up populated city. If that rather narrow UN definition stands. Then every war in history was Genocide. Can you give me an example of a war where large numbers of innocents didn’t die. It’s war, there is no clean version of it.

It’s not Genocide. If it were. No one would be walking out of Gaza City. It’s war, war is cruel, war is horrible, war is the ultimate example of human failure. Every war in history has resulted in mass casualties of innocent people. From carpet bombing German cities, to dropping agent orange in Vietnam. By its very nature innocents die. This is just another example of how dreadful war can be. But, there are no death camps here, no gas chambers,no organised campaign to exterminate an entire race. There’s war, just bloody war.

Only one side has the capacity to do it, true. But only Hamas and Hezbolah actually have it as a stated aim.

Personally, I think it’s more fear, that causes people to react violently. Until that fear of each other is removed, it’s difficult to see any way forward.