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No @Butterfingers it's a joke. The winky thing sorta gives that one away

Indeed.

Personally I'm expecting us to ruin him like we have every striker since Deano/Yorke

Yeah stop disrespecting us with your well thought out, well presented views on a player you have fond memories of......splitter.

I loved that kit. It's also one of the only times I ever got to laud it over all the glory hunting Liverpool supporters in school. And for us 70's kids they're EVERYWHERE!! This game is still talked about between me n my friends. They still hold a grudge against Souness for selling us Staunton, Houghton and Deano

Can't get enough them boys eh?

Aye, good shout, when I looked at the line up they stood out and get good word of mouth live. I think it was Noel Gallagher headlining on Sunday. As we were leaving crowds were funneling out of watching the David Bowie tribute act - but this aint unusual for No6 some of the crew were telling me they like a nice festival supergroup and they do promote a lot of creativity rather than just churning out stuff. The Gatehouse was really cool, sort of cinema/stand up/music venue. One of the band I was with was raving about the Ennico Morricone scores being played in there with shots form the films they were from running in the background that he had caught the night before. I noticed Shaun Ryder on the line up for that venue, think Craig Charles was doing his funk thing in there too. It being in North Wales there's obviously a few Welsh speaking bands and that and that means ceilidh punk-folk loveliness and whispy dreamy floaty stuff with flutes and violins and that with plenty of Cymru am byth. Really diverse musically. 2 dance tents. Everything there you want from a festival and with attention to detail that does put it above many of its ilk. I would definitely recommend it if there's kids in tow. With all the walkabout stuff and cabaret stage the procession through Portmeirion on the Saturday is quite the spectacle apparently, though I was a day late for that!

Thought I'd answer you here @rubberman save heading wildly OT

Just got asked this in the Kodjia thread. Thought I'd answer here rather than head OT in the Kodjia thread. Pretty. That's the first thing. Portmeirion is an amazing place on it's own. Throw in the madness of No6 and I'd say it's one of the prettiest festivals i've ever seen. There's stuff all around the actual village and you could spend a day just marvelling at the Sir Clough Williams-Ellis architecture. I'm not sure how big it is numbers wise (15,000 capacity maybe) but it's big. Lots of people. It's quite twee. Your more seasoned festival goer would describe it as a more 'middle-class festival' and a few people did exactly that on the performers bus out of there. Lots of middle aged people wandering around with gin and tonics and glasses of rose. But maybe that's more to do with the line up. I don't know. Despite the nice weather around the country they got quite a bit of rain and as I alluded to earlier I was driving for one of the bands, so headed in and out on Sunday but as I wasn't performing I got a good wander round. It was muddy. Although there are ALOT of concrete paths all around the place due to it being a tourist attraction anyway so once you're off the actual fields of the campsites and main arena not a boots only environment. Also one of the long stay car parks down in Portmadog looked like it had flooded (well they were parking them on the estuary banks??) no one was getting off that one without a tractor and we passed a few people heading home early on the way up there pushing bits of plastic back into their wheelarches and the like. The parking looks a ball-ache although as its a heritage site they need to keep the traffic away from the actual site and they do provide very regular shuttle busses. Artists weren't even allowed to drive in. Although there was a seperate short stay carpark and shuttle bus for all the artists (and all the blacked out coaches and tour busses ) with a little army of golf buggys ready to get the equipment and artists off to their stages. this was pretty efficient too I have to say. The live in vehicle field and campsite seemed to funnel through the family camping area to get onto the site which i thought was a little weird, They went for closer proximity rather than seclusion for the families basically. But on that note very family friendly. Lots of people of all ages which is always good i feel. Didn't spend a huge amount of time in the main arena as I was only there for a few hours and wanted to see what little gems I could root out (But guess what the main stage is a main stage. Probably had all the main acts on it too!! ). LOTS of different stages. LOTS of variation. You wont be stuck for finding things to do that's for sure. Toilets were particularly rough, and Ive seen a few down the years, but then to be fair it was Sunday afternoon. Half the boys had been there the whole weekend - they were also saying how pretty it was. Loads of walkabout stuff, great use of lighting etc. Definately the sort of festival where you can be stood in a quiet place having a beer and something is going to walk past every now and then and make you all go 'look at THAT'. One of the guys in particular has a new favourite festival and was raving about how it's the best festival in the UK. There was lager involved at this point. But he was totally serious. Bars and Coffee places all that stuff, well its a big festival so its all the commercial side of it. Nice semi permanent wooden structures and that, pretty soulless though. but then I am a bit of a Canvas whore when it comes to structures. Anyway I digress, Beers/food/coffee/tea etc pretty standard. Normal festival sort of prices but not overly extortionate. There is some posh restaurant in portmeirion which was open as usual to any festival goers but how many takers they had at £70 a head for breakfast I don't know but MANY people who i stopped and chatted with were telling that tale, in fact it was pretty much talk of the festival lol. Having said that if you're after a Luxury/Quality festival this would be the one. Blessed with such an amazing site and for anyone that doesn't know of Portmeirion I really can't stress that enough, blessed, You'd be silly not to go for the higher end of the market and theres plenty of choice out there for everyone eh. Punters mainly consisted of scouse and mancs, but then it's North Wales innit. Nice though, really nice vibe, bit too nice for my own personal taste but if you're in the habit of paying upwards of £180 on a festival ticket you couldn't leave the place disappointed unless you were mentally ill.

They don't seem to lack a good scout as far as strikers go to be fair to them.

BBC article

I agree on the 10-15 game marker. That takes us to the end of October.

so over-reaction of the week goes to me then. All good. I was tired. The moral of my story is a variation on the don't drink and text rule I suppose, don't drive a band on a 300 mile round trip to portmeirion over the Welsh mountains to play a festival and text. Support who you want, it's a free country, ish. Weirdo

Im delighted to be surfing the wave of optimism like all of us. Long may it continue! I agree we've been unlucky so far and been quite dominant in matches without that bit of luck. If you look at the Championship tables over the last decade If your loss column is in single figures come the end of the season you're unlucky not to get in the top 2 (especially Brighton last year) but pretty much guaranteed a play off place. I totally agree when they click we'll be going on a nice unbeaten run for change.

Happy anniversary

I particularly used to hate corners for this reason as a kid. Never saw a damn thing! I couldn't even remember the scorers in my first game lol but when I was trying to take in the sheer size of everything around me, the crowds, the stadium, the pitch I remember the players being so small and far away (if I know VT, cue Father Ted right?). I wonder if the non-standing thing made it better for the kids in this respect?

I'm totally in the top 10 camp atm. I think it's more a case of us hedging our bets a little. This newly formed squad on paper could win this league. I don't think any of us seriously think we're in danger of relegation anymore. But as @omariqy said going from 17 points 3 wins 8 draws and 27 losses to promotion form is a huge, huge ask. Pointing to the new personnel and characters in the dressing room is hugely relevant, but then so is the fact that it's basically a whole new first 11 learning to gel. It may take a while. I think RDM's minimum requirement is to make the play-offs. If he doesn't he'll surely go.

I remember when he burst on the scene and then the Arsenal interest and I clearly remember sitting in the pub with my mates and saying to them I know he aint the best but he's one of ours and in this time of 'mercenaries' how much I wished he would be our Steve Bull, our LeTissier. The moral of this tale being be careful what you wish for. It's a shame its gone bad but it's gone very very bad.

Not picking on you NIVillan but this winds me up. He looked a handful in a televised game. He battered no-one. The game finished 0-0 ffs.

I know i've said it before but I feel sorry for the young 'uns if this is their 'legend'.

Also not unheard of to be able to deliver that information without the nonsensical guesswork at the start though is it really? Jump to random conclusions much? Anyway welcome to VT and thanks for introducing yourself in such a friendly way. Anyway while we're on the topic of people who have 2 teams in the Kodjia thread, @JamesBCFC Where does the "Jimmy" thing come from?

US Open has been fun so far, all these Brits doing well. And it keeps on coming, Dan Evans is giving Wawrinka a good run for his money atm.

If Kodjia is more Man than Donkey he'll get the nod

I don't believe he is "one of us"

It was 29th March 1986 apparently Hodge and Stainrod were the scorers. I was in the City end as my Auntie gave up her ST for my Uncle to take me. Billy McNeil was their manager. Turner was still here. McNab and Wilson equalised at the end for them. Just I'm sure they had 2 goals disallowed. seems pre premier league stats are a bit hard to come by in a simple internet search. Anyone else in the 20,000 odd that day remember? EDIT: some stats place 3 goals in the 90th minute! Bet 9 year old me thought it was always like that lol. Also, now I've sat and thought about it I have quite vivid memories of the supporters bar at Maine Road where my aunt and uncle met up at full time. I remember how they all said they liked the Villa, and Forest, mainly coz we'd won the European cup and weren't Utd or Liverpool Also there was genuine sympathy towards Gary Shaw being robbed of a great career.