markavfc40 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) I have never seen the BBC as batting for any side. In terms of the issue around this song though they have made the same mistake as many other media outlets and made an issue out of something silly and trivial and fell right into the hands of those behind it. This song would never have been heading for the top of the charts without all the publicity it as received and that has mainly been down to those against it. Edited April 13, 2013 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 13, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 13, 2013 Any of the libertarian wing of the Tory Party uttered a word on censorship yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Any of the libertarian wing of the Tory Party uttered a word on censorship yet? Not as far as I've heard. I was also wondering if the Taxdodgers' Alliance would be protesting against the use of vast sums of public money for the spectacle, but I seem to have missed that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 13, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 13, 2013 Oh and this song issue isn't really about disrespecting a dead person and both those with polarised opinions know it. The Tory Party lets not forget were the ones that dumped Thatcher, her own cabinet stuck the knife in deep enough that she could never recover, yet now that self same party appear to be airbrushing "The Thatcher Legacy." What they'd really like is for her time as PM to be remembered in peoples minds as a fantastic thing, they also hope it will boost the image of the current f**kwits in charge of the country, a whole new the Tories aren't that bad feeling (remember post Falklands Britain). What the silly Wizard of Oz song does, is put another mark in the history books, that not everyone in the country thinks this, its about making an alternative statement, that proves that there were huge numbers of people that did have a different opinion. Trouble is the media never learn, if they'd ignored it, then it would have been starved of the oxygen of publicity but no they try (and partially succeed) in censoring it (how libertarian, how free market!) but that again boosts sales, dimwitsAnyone who thinks this funeral is just about paying respects to the witch is deluding themselves. Why is Cameron delivering a speech at the funeral, he hardly knew her. Anyone been to a funeral where some random member of the congregation who hardly knew the deceased speaks out in remembrance? Why not one of her cabinet colleagues of the time, Tebbit perhaps, he was always faithful… it's because its a new Party Political broadcast and best of all the opposition can't be seen to dissent. So really it is up to the people not parties to voice dissent. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Any of the libertarian wing of the Tory Party uttered a word on censorship yet? To be fair to Philip Davies, whilst calling the campaign small minded and mean spirited, The Beeb have him down as saying It's a chart programme so if it's top of the charts they have to play it. It's not for the BBC to define on what basis something is in the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 13, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 13, 2013 Well done him and the rest of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 13, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) Be offended, nothing happens. When did "sticks and stones may break my bones stop being relevant? It's what we teach children. Edited April 13, 2013 by NurembergVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Well done him and the rest of them? Not heard much other than Whittingdale saying that it shouldn't be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Interesting article about respecting the dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 13, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 13, 2013 Inheritance tax dodger. £6 mil pound London Townhouse that shes lived in for 20 years owned by company with links to three offshore tax havens = no inheritance tax to be paid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Inheritance tax dodger. £6 mil pound London Townhouse that shes lived in for 20 years owned by company with links to three offshore tax havens = no inheritance tax to be paid. Also see Andy Wightman's blog to clear up a little confusion in the Mirror piece about ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Debate in Scottish Parliament: Is there such a thing as society? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 This is actually quite funny. USA journos struggle to see why Thatcher is loathed by millions. Politics in the US seems to occupy such a narrow bandwidth of the available spectrum...worse even than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Any of the libertarian wing of the Tory Party uttered a word on censorship yet? They have been gagged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Good to see Milwall observing a minutes violence yesterday, with miners protesting also I just wanted to see Spitting Image on TV again and I would have got my specials LP on the gram .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I remember very well the "outrage" that some of the VT'ers who shall we say are UKIP and Tory supporters had regarding things like Civil Liberties and Freedom of Speech etc. It now seems that these liberties and freedoms are a one way thing and only apply when a) they are in opposition (I appreciate UKIP will always be that but let's be honest them and the Tory party are pretty much the same thing) or when they don't want to hear from anyone having differing viewpoints to theirs, especially about some as iconic to them as the Thatcher woman. I suppose the songs that were released at the height of the Thatcher reign should also be banned, damn you Specials etc never let your music be heard again The modern Tory Party and the Labour Party are indistinguishable apart from the colour of their ties. Thatcher killed politics as an effective way for the people of this country to influence its future by selling it to the banks and killing any voice of dissent. Her protege Tony Blair finished off the Labour Party just in case. I'm genuinely surprised that people still believe in party politics. We are lucky enough "upt north" to have a few activists on both sides of the political spectrum that makes the whole party political thing keep being interesting. Get yourself up the M1 to where it becomes cobbled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I'm genuinely surprised that people still believe in party politics. We the people don't, election turnouts are getting lower and lower. Strong independent candidates and smaller parties are getting elected more regularly. What keeps the big two / three parties at the top is their cosy relationship with the news media, not in a conspiratorial way more a symbiotic way where they need each other so much, they are afraid to cut themselves loose from one another. But slowly it is all beginning to unravel. Hmmm I wonder if PR could solve that ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Since Margaret Thatcher's death, many newspapers have been writing about the good things she achieved, while overlooking the damage she did to society. It's the equivalent of a political vajazzle, trying to make that cu*t look good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 14, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 14, 2013 It is kinda ironic how the papers have stopped printing bile about "people living on benefits" for the last few days only to replace it with tributes and rewritings of history about the PM who did so much to turn it into an involuntary lifestyle choice for the masses. That many people had to survive on benefits because of her policies (the figures were constantly being massaged downwards too) that sections of society (it does exist) came to understand that as the norm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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