Zatman Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 When did we last have a summer as good as this? 2008 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Thread seems a little quiet, funny that.Good sensible support for Lambert this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Ok, do everubody here understand economics and what Randy is trying to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 3 consecutive relegation battles. Falling down the table in terms of revenue. Credit for backing the manager this summer but think it will take a bit more before I'm a fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 He backed Martin O'Neill...would u? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 3 consecutive relegation battles. Falling down the table in terms of revenue. Credit for backing the manager this summer but think it will take a bit more before I'm a fan.me too. Made some shocking decisions making some right ones now and it needs to continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted August 17, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2013 I don't care about Lerner I don't care about me All I care about is A V F C :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Had a drink mike ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 The girls gonna love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeMcKenna Posted August 17, 2013 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2013 Had a drink mike ? Yep! Am in Taormina in Sicily at the moment and was the only Villa fan in an Irish pub full of Gooners watching the game - very sweet :-) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Daft Question:- He wasn't at the game yesterday was he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 3 consecutive relegation battles. Falling down the table in terms of revenue. Credit for backing the manager this summer but think it will take a bit more before I'm a fan. So the good years we had with MON don't count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap of Steel Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 For what it's worth, at least Lerner has spent more than the Arsenal board... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 That isn't going to last long though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 3 consecutive relegation battles. Falling down the table in terms of revenue. Credit for backing the manager this summer but think it will take a bit more before I'm a fan. So the good years we had with MON don't count? That's right. When things are going badly - Randy is to blame. When things are going well - manager is the one who deserves all the praise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Panto_Villan Posted August 18, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2013 People moaning that we've not spent enough money are assuming that Lambert actually wants to spend lots of cash (have you guys ever met a Scotsman before?). Lerner has done plenty of good things for the club. Never been shy with transfer fees - £18m on Bent for example. He's backed every new manager with money, and we've had quite a few of them recently. When we sell a player, we get a damn good price for him: Milner, Barry, Young, Downing. He didn't cash in on Benteke this summer when the sharks were circling. The club has a good reputation for the professionality of its dealings in the transfer window. Aalborg even cited it as a factor why they refused a slightly higher offer for Helenius when we were negotiating with them. He's put money into redeveloping the stadium (the pub) and the training ground at Bodymoor, as a result we now have excellent facilities that a lot of the younger players cite when they're interviewed on why they joined. That cost some £30m. We finished 6th three years in a row under MON. He's hired Lambert and stuck with him when times were bad. Most people's criticism of him seems to boil down to three things: He hired McLeish. I won't defend him here at all, because it was a shocking decision and nearly got us relegated as well as destroying a lot of fans faith in the club. Massive error, no question. He's not investing enough in the club. I don't agree with this, because he's spent a lot of transfers already (as mentioned above) and the club is losing something like £50m a year already. That's about £150,000 a day that's going down the toilet...and people are calling him a tightarse? The fact he's not willing to spend the GDP of a small country to get us into the Champions League is hardly a reason to hate the man. If an anonymous benefactor donated £50m to the club he'd be hailed as a hero but Lerner is investing that every year and people seem to hate him because he's allegedly not spending enough. He owns the club, so ultimately he's responsible for the huge loss the club makes every year. Partially true, maybe, but ultimately this is only the case because he's backed the managers (like MON) who put people on ludicrous salaries. But if he hadn't backed the mangers with enough cash, people would hate him for that too - see point 2). Do I think Randy Lerner is the best club owner ever? No. Would I rather have him than Mike Ashley? Yes. Dave Whelan? Yes. Bill Kenwright? Yes, I would. At the rate of current loss, AVFC would financially destroy Lerner in 12 years. The fact he wants to reduce the wage bill a bit is not a reason to crucify him. Have some perspective, please...the man has spent more money on AVFC than the entire of VillaTalk ever will. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 3 consecutive relegation battles. Falling down the table in terms of revenue. Credit for backing the manager this summer but think it will take a bit more before I'm a fan. So the good years we had with MON don't count? You mean the years where he allowed the spending to reach levels we could never continue at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 3 consecutive relegation battles. Falling down the table in terms of revenue. Credit for backing the manager this summer but think it will take a bit more before I'm a fan. So the good years we had with MON don't count? That's right. When things are going badly - Randy is to blame. When things are going well - manager is the one who deserves all the praise. Who hasn't given him credit for our summer activity then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) Who hasn't given him credit for our summer activity then? Smetrov is an example of a poster who is continually stating the opinion that the club will never achieve more than mid-table mediocrity until Lerner starts spending more. Your above post is blaming Lerner for backing the manager too much. He can't win. It's also noticeable that this thread has had about two positive posts in it after the Arsenal victory, whereas the Lambert thread has had about 200. I can see why Lambert is more directly responsible, of course, but it does illustrate what Mantis is talking about. Edited August 18, 2013 by Panto_Villan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 3 consecutive relegation battles. Falling down the table in terms of revenue. Credit for backing the manager this summer but think it will take a bit more before I'm a fan. So the good years we had with MON don't count? That's right. When things are going badly - Randy is to blame. When things are going well - manager is the one who deserves all the praise. Who hasn't given him credit for our summer activity then? Well, this thread certainly has gotten quiet in recent months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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