sne Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Winds me up when that is wheeled out for either players or managers. Has no baring whats so ever. This you have to elaborate a bit, what do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) Winds me up when that is wheeled out for either players or managers. Has no baring whats so ever. No it has a bearing (note sp.) on whether he can rightly claim that he is "hurting" more than Villa fans at the moment. It's just a job for him and if it doesn't work out, massive payoff, a few weeks golfing in Spain and then another job. It will be the fans left with the wreckage of relegation. Edited January 25, 2013 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizme Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Aren't a few out of contract come June ? Eg. Ireland, Warnock and Dunne ?? Warnock and Dunne, Ireland has on more year. IIRC Given and N´zog has three (!!!) more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Our midfield is **** shit We have gone from Downing,Young,Miner,Barry,NRC ,Petrov to Allbrighton,Ireland,Nzogbia,KEA,Delph,Bannan,Westwood,Herd. This is where it has gone tits up. one of the best midfield in the prem. to one of the worst in our history within 4 years. Shocking stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The contracts handed out to Given and NZogbia are eye wateringly ba As was Irelands deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Yeah or look at Barcelona, but they have skilled gifted players, we do not. Of course size isn't everything but it does help, especially in a physical league as the Championship Swansea got out of the Championship with little players. But if size isn't one of the factors to why we can't win headers or the midfield battles then it has to be tactical inabillity and lack of motivation from the players, i can't see that being any better once we get relegated We are one of the best 5 clubs in the league for winning headers. Look at what this table is telling us. Liverpool are one of the most dominant teams in the air in the PL at the moment. Daniel Agger wins 61% aerial dules, Martin Skrtel wins 69%. Clark wins 58%, Vlaar wins 71%/Baker wins 70%. At CB we're about the same. The league leaders? Man Utd are worse. Ferdinand wins 56% aerial battles, Johnny Evans 52%. We are good in the air. What we lack is organisation - at set pieces, and in "second phase." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Look at the key passes stat and compare with other teams - esp. Bannan's. The midfield does provide service. Problem is our wing backs and defence don't have nearly as good passing, crossing, longball stats as our midfield, and it's often the wing backs and CBs - not our wingers, CMs, or forwards - lobbing the balls in. This is also a matter of organisation. Our midfield is not terrible. That is an unfounded assertion. Our midfield is underused. Our defence is terrible and our organisation is wretched. the defence is over worked as teams waltz through the midfield at will. Do you watch any of our games or do you supply analysis to Paul Lambert because he too cannot see our midfield problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Suck it up princess! It's a figure of speech - little bit of a OTT reaction there. That's probably one of the most intelligent comments I've read on Villatalk for, oh, at least the last 15 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Lamberts job is safe regardless of results apparently Go figure that one out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) We have gone from Downing,Young,Miner,Barry,NRC ,Petrov to Allbrighton,Ireland,Nzogbia,KEA,Delph,Bannan,Westwood,Herd. This is where it has gone tits up. one of the best midfield in the prem. to one of the worst in our history within 4 years. Shocking stuff. One of the best midfields in the league? Yeah I think that's going a bit too far. Should also be worth noting that Downing and Barry never played together. Edited January 25, 2013 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 How important is tonight's game for Lambert or is it not only the league that counts? Think he should play strongest team possible tonight or try and rest one or two with the Newcastle game on Tuesday and them having a free weekend? Id play the entire U19 team. Confidence is already at rock bottom and sending the 1st team out for another embarrassing defeat will do more harm than good. Remember we must stick together whatever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 the defence is over worked as teams waltz through the midfield at will. Do you watch any of our games or do you supply analysis to Paul Lambert because he too cannot see our midfield problems What a load of nonsense. He knows full well we need bodies in midfield. But the cupboard is bare. But please do tell me the players you would have brought in using the 20 mill budget and for wages not over 20k?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 League is what matters .however another lose would effect players IMO so has to go as strong as he can. In latest interview talked about going back to basics , I agree.No time for pretty football now need to use wings and our pace more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Though it was just Dunne. don't the other two have a year left? Dunne, Warnock, Lichaj and Marshall are out of contract in the summer. Makoun, Ireland, Albrighton, Bannan, Clark, Herd, Weimann, Gardner and Baker till 2014 Bent, Agbonlahor, Hutton, Holman, Vlaar, Delph, KEA, Guzan, Bowery and Stephens till 2015 Given, Nzogbia, Bennet, Westwood, Benteke and Lowton till 2016 Our midfield is **** shit Yes, yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 One of the best midfields in the league? Yeah I think that's going a bit too far. Should also be worth noting that Downing and Barry never played together. I know they never. I was just highlighting the players out the door and the players who have replaced them. There really is no comparison when it comes to quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 That's probably one of the most intelligent comments I've read on Villatalk for, oh, at least the last 15 seconds. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 What a load of nonsense. He knows full well we need bodies in midfield. But the cupboard is bare. But please do tell me the players you would have brought in using the 20 mill budget and for wages not over 20k?? he didn't need to sign lowton, Bennett or bowery so he could have got two better midfield than KEA and Westwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 he didn't need to sign lowton, Bennett or bowery so he could have got two better midfield than KEA and Westwood. Because warnock and hutton are so awesome?? every fan wanted them gone - so yeah he did. Again prob not his first choices. Not enough money for those. Who are they then?? name them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Get a Sunday league manager in then if experience doesn't count, cheap too. A Sunday league manager would probably have more tactical nous than Lambert to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Lamberts job is safe regardless of results apparently Go figure that one out Pretty simple really. Lerner doesn’t want to shell out any more money on sacking one and bringing in another. And the new manager would equally have no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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