CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) 2009/2010...one of our best, if not best, seasons in recent years. great players. great league position. fantastic cup runs.all round feel good factor. 2012/2013...well, i don't really need to go into it. but what started it? aside from MON walking out. was it not being able to hold on to our top stars? was it the fact we failed to replace them. or was it the fact that we just got an manager (houllier) that didn't seem to know what to do with the club? we all have our different opinions. i certainly have mine...i was just wondering what the general opinion was on how such a classy and successful club has turned into this. p.s sorry if this has been done to death already...did have a look around for it but couldnt find it. Edited January 13, 2013 by CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Thatcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dukes Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The rot started when Man City got taken over by the arabs, that effectively wrecked the supposed 5 year plan and made qualification in the champions league that bit harder. This left the club with a wage to turnover ratio that wa snot sustainable as they had speculated to accumulate and needed the Champions League qualification to sustain things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 When we sold Yorke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Ed Balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 The rot started when Man City got taken over by the arabs, that effectively wrecked the supposed 5 year plan and made qualification in the champions league that bit harder. This left the club with a wage to turnover ratio that wa snot sustainable as they had speculated to accumulate and needed the Champions League qualification to sustain things. i completely agree that man city have totally thrown a curveball into modern football. it's a shame it's turned out that way because the season before city really started causing problems was probably one of the most exciting and open we've had in ages. you had the likes of villa and everton troubling arsenal for 4th...spurs wernt such a big spanner in the works either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 13, 2013 Moderator Share Posted January 13, 2013 A meeting on the 20th February 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The rot started when Man City got taken over by the arabs, that effectively wrecked the supposed 5 year plan and made qualification in the champions league that bit harder. thats what i think too, moved the goalposts straight away, both in terms of competition and in terms of average wages in the prem, 2/3 years later we have players turning down £60k a week, lerners lost interest and to be completely honest i dont blame him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 not to mention the fact that if villa wanted an ashley young type player from a watford sort of team now...he'd cost you 10 million just to beat off the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yea let's all blame Man City. Way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Bringing houllier in with the remit to promote youth and buy foreign quality for a fraction of British talent and then dismissing him after 6 months hurt us imo, had he signed the players he had lined up (cabaye, ba, kallstrom) we wouldn't be in this mess, followed up with the appointment of a manager that couldn't organise a prayer in a mosque with no plan and the subsequent appointment of a manager that seems out of his depth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 nah it's not just city. city is just one example of many why the premier league is a harder place now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Bringing houllier in with the remit to promote youth and buy foreign quality for a fraction of British talent and then dismissing him after 6 months hurt us imo, had he signed the players he had lined up (cabaye, ba, kallstrom) we wouldn't be in this mess, followed up with the appointment of a manager that couldn't organise a prayer in a mosque with no plan and the subsequent appointment of a manager that seems out of his depth. i didn't like houllier at the time...wish he'd have stayed a bit longer now if his health had been better. curious to see what would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 A culture of short-termism that goes back as long as I can remember. The managerial casualty list over the past 25 years is shameful and has meant we have never been able to build anything significant. The root cause goes right to the top but we as fans have to take a large amount of the blame for that too. D'OL was right about us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Look at Everton and Spurs as an example. That is what we have failed to replicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 D'OL was right about us. All football fans are fickle. Look at Newcastle, last season pardew was a magician, now they want him sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 True but I doubt Moyes for example would have survived some of the seasons he had at Everton had they have been here. I'm not saying we're the worst, far from it, but we all know how quickly it can turn at Villa Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Look at Everton and Spurs as an example. That is what we have failed to replicate. Care to elaborate? These clubs have had radically different approaches to investment, manager/player turnover, youth policy, and almost every other aspect of running a football club I can think of over the past 10-15 years. So what should we have replicated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Nothing to do with city. It started when Lerner pulled the plug on backing mon anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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