mikeyp102 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I think some are forgetting how bloody awful he was last year. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Also agreed. Another case of a player getting better in the minds of supporters by being left out. Joe Bennett is absolute shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 He's not though is he? As i said , played well against Spuds and Arse in partic, had a good game against Ure in both games, his 1st season in the Prem, cost £2/3 mill?, some people have too high expectations.Mind you according to some, they're all shite. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Absolute cack. **** hell, I detest our fans at times. A guy coming in in his first season in the Premiership and found it hard. He improved towards the back end of the season, yet some people will still keep the blinkered view that he's terrible. It's your opinion, at the end of the day, but he's clearly not 'absolute shite' or 'bloody awful'. Bennett in particularly copped a lot of flak last year. Some warranted definitely, but some was ridiculously OTT. He closed his Twitter because of abuse and he got it from the fans at home games. Imagine how that would affect you as a person, if all you got was absolute abuse from your so-called 'fans', just for doing your job. But obviously, it's part of the job because he earns good money. It winds me up how people can take a moral high ground over footballers because they earn good money as well. Absolute cobblers. Edited September 15, 2013 by StefanAVFC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 The only signing Lambert made that he replaced this summer. He was quite obviously awful last season and needed replacing. He may well improve and be good enough and let's hope he does but there's no point pretending he was good enough last year simply because he wears a villa shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Numerous players will come into the Premiership and not be ready straight away. That doesn't mean they deserve abuse. Edited September 15, 2013 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Doesn't deserve abuse. I'm just saying he clearly was rubbish last season and was rightly replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaguy Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 The only signing Lambert made that he replaced this summer. He was quite obviously awful last season and needed replacing. He may well improve and be good enough and let's hope he does but there's no point pretending he was good enough last year simply because he wears a villa shirt. He needed some competition/cover as Bennett was the only player at left back for this season if no-one was signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 The only signing Lambert made that he replaced this summer. He was quite obviously awful last season and needed replacing. He may well improve and be good enough and let's hope he does but there's no point pretending he was good enough last year simply because he wears a villa shirt. He needed some competition/cover as Bennett was the only player at left back for this season if no-one was signed Absolutely this. He wasn't so much replaced, as much given competition. Luna just took his chance in pre-season and made the spot his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Well I disagree. The fact we chose to play baker at LB at times last year show how terrible he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 The games we played Baker at LB was to combat big bugger forwards and midfielders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 We were crying out for width yesterday and for all his shortcomings in his first season in the premiership, one thing Bennett offered us was width - especially going forward. It's far too early to write him off as he has a very good left foot. Once he has matured and gained more strength he will prove to be a very decent left sided player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaguy Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 The games we played Baker at LB was to combat big bugger forwards and midfielders. Like 'that game' against Chelsea where Baker started instead of Bennett!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 To be fair though, when Bennett came on in that game, it looked like he had forgotten he had to defend. Whether that was PL's tactics or JB; I don't know. I doubt PL would have let him stay that attacking if that wasn't the instruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaguy Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 By the time he came on against Chelsea the game was dead and buried, would be hard for a inexperienced left back to come on and alter the game. I was pleased how he progressed last year, I don't understand how or why people like to slate him so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 So will luna be dropped for baker when we play teams with big lads upfront? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 On the flip side, which games did Baker actually come in for Bennett? For tactical reasons? Will help me to answer your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I'm not claiming he did come in for tactical reasons, you are. I'm saying baker was picked over bennet because a cb playing out of position was better than bennet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaguy Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) I'm not claiming he did come in for tactical reasons, you are. I'm saying baker was picked over bennet because a cb playing out of position was better than bennet. I don't think he was better at left back than Bennett, left backs need to do more than just defend. No doubt Bennett needs to improve, but he is doing and there's definitely potential with his ability. Edited September 15, 2013 by villaguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I'm not claiming he did come in for tactical reasons, you are. I'm saying baker was picked over bennet because a cb playing out of position was better than bennet. But you have no evidence for this point. I'm claiming that PL bought Baker in for Bennett when he needed another big defender at the back. You asked me whether Baker will come in for Luna in those similar games. I need to see what games Baker came in for tactical reasons. Not because Bennett was injured or unfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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