Wainy316 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I respect peoples right to believe, just not what they believe. It's stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Is there no room for middle ground? There's nothing wrong with believing or not believing in God. If they want to believe in some spiritual guff, and they made their own minds up after much thought, then fine. The problem comes when people turn to religion, which is what this thread deals with. Religion is a stain. A horrid, misogynist, homophobic, slavery-permitting, blood thirsty totalitarian stain. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Religion has done more harm, and continues to do more harm, to the world than good. Edited February 7, 2014 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Can't you believe in God without organised religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Religion has done more harm, and continues to do more harm, for the world than good. Not as much as your teaching. Ok, I'll stop now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Religion has done more harm, and continues to do more harm, in the world than good. Not as much as your teaching. Ok, I'll stop now. Should have picked up on my shit grammar there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Religion has done more harm, and continues to do more harm, in the world than good. Not as much as your teaching. Ok, I'll stop now. Should have picked up on my shit grammar there. I didn't want to be mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I respect peoples right to believe, just not what they believe. It's stupid. Well then don't be surprised if some don't respect what you believe either. Is there no room for middle ground? There's nothing wrong with believing or not believing in God. If they want to believe in some spiritual guff, and they made their own minds up after much thought, then fine. The problem comes when people turn to religion, which is what this thread deals with. Religion is a stain. A horrid, misogynist, homophobic, slavery-permitting, blood thirsty totalitarian stain. That's just an absurd generalization. The problem comes when people are incapable of accepting that other people have views that differ from their own and feel that it is then acceptable to address such differences with force. That goes for all beliefs, including politics and yes, atheism. There are plenty of people that are religious but are none of the things you just described. It's attitudes like that which help to cause conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Mantis, you could start a fight in an empty room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 There are plenty of people that are religious but are none of the things you just described. Good for them, but the texts speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I respect peoples right to believe, just not what they believe. It's stupid. Well then don't be surprised if some don't respect what you believe either. That's fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 There are plenty of people that are religious but are none of the things you just described. Good for them, but the texts speak for themselves. They were written in a different time. If somebody chooses to do blatantly nasty or evil things because it's in their holy book then that's their problem and nobody else's. We have free will. Mantis, you could start a fight in an empty room It's just a discussion mate. No need for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 We don't have free will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Mantis, you could start a fight in an empty room Most people on VT could. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 There are plenty of people that are religious but are none of the things you just described. Good for them, but the texts speak for themselves. They were written in a different time. If somebody chooses to do blatantly nasty or evil things because it's in their holy book then that's their problem and nobody else's. We have free will. Mantis, you could start a fight in an empty room It's just a discussion mate. No need for that. Oh chill out, it was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Religion has done more harm, and continues to do more harm, in the world than good. Not as much as your teaching. Ok, I'll stop now. Should have picked up on my shit grammar there. Almost Yodaesque, your grammar is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Yeah that was awful. I'll put my hands up I broke up the sentence with a subordinate clause in the wrong place. At least I realised. Edited February 7, 2014 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted February 7, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yeah that was awful. I'll put my hands up I broke up the sentence with a subordinate clause in the wrong place. At least I realised. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted February 7, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2014 But I feel sorry for those of you who don't believe in God. There is definitely something out there. The exact mirror image of my thoughts on the subject. Strange old world eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 there may well be something out there. I just think it's frankly ludicrous anything out there would associate itself with the atavistic human-produced horseshit doctrine produced so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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