villabromsgrove Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 He's a championship manager punching above his weight in the bowels of the PL I disagree. Me too. Me three. Martinez is my first choice. Bring him in, and give him four years to turn our young players into a proper footballing team. AM/PG OUT! (in May) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpabloangel18 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 He's a championship manager punching above his weight in the bowels of the PL I disagree. Me too. Me three. My hunch is also to disagree, although time will tell. I reckon he could do really well with a bit of financial backing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 He's a championship manager punching above his weight in the bowels of the PL I disagree. Me too. Me three. My hunch is also to disagree, although time will tell. I reckon he could do really well with a bit of financial backing. and patience! It takes time to implement a blueprint and restructure a club, particularly one that has been heavily reliant on counter attacking football rather than a possession based game. Barca didnt happen overnight, it took 20 odd years and the vision of a certain Mr Cryuff to set them on the path they are now enjoying. Fortunately, I think that our academy staff and the way they set up the youngsters to play does give us something to work with. Its that transistion from lower pressure reserve and youth football into Premier League football where the right manager is necessary. We dont currently have that manager, but Martinez could, could, do wonders. One thing I know for sure, I would prefer to see what Martinez can do than continue to listen to the ginger whinger blaming his own inadequacies on injuries, Ashley Young, God, referees, the fans, the clubs expectations and Randy. My apologies for the numerous people who I have failed to mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 ahhh divide and rule is kicking in ! A week ago - Mcleish was clearly in the firing line. now were splitting, Faulkner, Lerner, Peter Grant, - Lerner is not the owner we hoped - granted, but look at what Newcastle, WBA,Everton, Fulham, and many more have acheived with considerably less. Sacking Mcleish won't cure all ills - but clearly a manager who is homing in on 3 relegation's in 4 PL league seasons, and has almost zero support among the supporters - isn't the future in way shape or form. Keep focused folks. I am sure Lerner will stand aside in due course - but in the interim we need a manager who do better with our resources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaRoy Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 It will be an absolute shambles if McLeish keeps his job at the end of the season. How can a manager who is on track for overseeing the worst home record ever, finishing behind Baggies for the first time in 34 years and having our lowest PL points total keep his job? Not to mention the poor football. He looks a clueless man, totally devoid of ideas when he's either standing on the side lines or sitting squashed between Grant and Cowans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 22, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2012 Well if I were AMC and I knew I was losing Downing and Young the first thing i'd say to Randy before taking the job is that "I will lower the wage bill and lose quality players as long as you give me time to get my own players" ......... This summer I can only imagine there's going to be a huge overhaul in the squad. AMC will have a chance to bring in his own players and Randy will give him the opportunity to do that. If we're still in a relegation battle by Xmas next season then he will be gone IMO. Whilst I think our squad are capable of a higher position then where are at the minute, I don't think our squad is very good at all. In a way McLeish deserves the chance to get in his own players and then try it.... but i'd rather he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The question is (apart from a Facebook group trying to get banners and leaflets produced for a protest at the home game to Spurs) what is anyone doing about it? The answer is '**** All'. Aren't those renewing their season tickets giving a mandate to Lerner to basically say "carry on regardless because we will still be pumping money into your business"? So if McLeish is still here next season then there are 1000's who will have to look at themselves and say "what did I do to help when my club needed it"? In my opinion, it is a bit like voting Tory at the last general election and then spending the next 4-5 years moaning about the fact that the government has stitched you up. Totally unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Well if I were AMC and I knew I was losing Downing and Young the first thing i'd say to Randy before taking the job is that "I will lower the wage bill and lose quality players as long as you give me time to get my own players" ......... This summer I can only imagine there's going to be a huge overhaul in the squad. AMC will have a chance to bring in his own players and Randy will give him the opportunity to do that. If we're still in a relegation battle by Xmas next season then he will be gone IMO. Whilst I think our squad are capable of a higher position then where are at the minute, I don't think our squad is very good at all. In a way McLeish deserves the chance to get in his own players and then try it.... but i'd rather he didn't. No. McLeish does not deserve anymore chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 22, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2012 Well if I were AMC and I knew I was losing Downing and Young the first thing i'd say to Randy before taking the job is that "I will lower the wage bill and lose quality players as long as you give me time to get my own players" ......... This summer I can only imagine there's going to be a huge overhaul in the squad. AMC will have a chance to bring in his own players and Randy will give him the opportunity to do that. If we're still in a relegation battle by Xmas next season then he will be gone IMO. Whilst I think our squad are capable of a higher position then where are at the minute, I don't think our squad is very good at all. In a way McLeish deserves the chance to get in his own players and then try it.... but i'd rather he didn't. No. McLeish does not deserve anymore chances. Well you're very much welcome to that opinion, unfortunately I'm of the opinion Randy thinks differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 To be honest if we sack McLeish and appoint Martinez its just another false dawn We need a proven, high calibre manager that befits a club of our potential We are not Wigan or Norwich or Swansea Scholari, Capello, Koeman, Rijkaard, that's the type of short list randy needs to work on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 There were about 25000 villa fans in the ground yesterday. It looked to me only around 25% of them were interested in protesting singing anti McLeish. You would be amazed how many fans are happy to put up with and keep Mcleish for as long as his contract lasts I have spoke to a few. If he is here next seasom we only have us as fans to blame. I Think Lerner and co. dont even think there is a problem with fans hating McLeish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 To be honest if we sack McLeish and appoint Martinez its just another false dawn We need a proven, high calibre manager that befits a club of our potential We are not Wigan or Norwich or Swansea Scholari, Capello, Koeman, Rijkaard, that's the type of short list randy needs to work onNot this again. Why are you so against managers that aren't high profile? Everyone starts somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Koeman Are you insane, look at his record. Seriously. Rijkaard outside of Barca has been unspectacular. In fact I'd probably plump for Martinez before most of those on the basis that two of them are in decline. I think Sven is a better option than Capello or Scholari to be honest too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 22, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2012 Scholari, Capello, Koeman, Rijkaard, that's the type of short list randy needs to work on Bet they're all desperate to come here too. No money to spend and to lower the wage bill. Great prospect for a well known manager who could get a job elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Remember the football in the premiership has been shit this season. I mean West Brom for example have beat Liverplop, all sorts of records have been broken this season. it just proves how shit we really have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 There were about 25000 villa fans in the ground yesterday. It looked to me only around 25% of them were interested in protesting singing anti McLeish. You would be amazed how many fans are happy to put up with and keep Mcleish for as long as his contract lasts I have spoke to a few. If he is here next seasom we only have us as fans to blame. I Think Lerner and co. dont even think there is a problem with fans hating McLeish. I guess you have to allow for the fact that there are quite a few people in the world who were at the back of the queue when brains were given out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 22, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2012 Maybe Randy should give Mourinho a call too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villadude Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The question is (apart from a Facebook group trying to get banners and leaflets produced for a protest at the home game to Spurs) what is anyone doing about it? The answer is '**** All'. Aren't those renewing their season tickets giving a mandate to Lerner to basically say "carry on regardless because we will still be pumping money into your business"? So if McLeish is still here next season then there are 1000's who will have to look at themselves and say "what did I do to help when my club needed it"? In my opinion, it is a bit like voting Tory at the last general election and then spending the next 4-5 years moaning about the fact that the government has stitched you up. Totally unbelievable! Good shout mate, that's exactly how I feel about it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The question is (apart from a Facebook group trying to get banners and leaflets produced for a protest at the home game to Spurs) what is anyone doing about it? The answer is '**** All'. Aren't those renewing their season tickets giving a mandate to Lerner to basically say "carry on regardless because we will still be pumping money into your business"? So if McLeish is still here next season then there are 1000's who will have to look at themselves and say "what did I do to help when my club needed it"? In my opinion, it is a bit like voting Tory at the last general election and then spending the next 4-5 years moaning about the fact that the government has stitched you up. Totally unbelievable! Good shout mate, that's exactly how I feel about it all. where is this fbook group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 This man would be alright I think. Was linked last summer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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