PaulC Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 The only way to get back at Warner is for Trott to score a hundred in Adelaide. Its the ashes its always been like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Trott leaving the tour due to stress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 The Trott thing is interesting, and draws obvious comparisons to Marcus Trescothick. Having read Trescothick's book, if Trott is suffering with mental health problems, then it's for the best he's left the tour. Although I question what he was doing there in the first place? Hope he gets well again, and comes back the same player he was 12 months or so ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Sad to hear. Think he;s brave to admit it and go home, Hope he makes a full recovery. Its not like a pulled hamstring so you don't really know whether its going to get worse and you are not able to cope anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I wonder if David Warner is feeling like a right word removed now after his 'poor and weak' comments? Probably not...it's David Warner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 probably not, he's happy Trott has gone home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 To be fair to Warner, he'd have had no idea as to the state of Trott's mental health. It was a silly comment, and I'm sure he feels bad about it now, given what's come to light. Getting back to how we'll line up without him, I think we have a few options. Bell moving to 3 seems like the most obvious move. Then it's between Ballance & Bairstow for 6, with Root moving to 5. Although I think I'd like to see Stokes given a go, as he'd beef up the bowling too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Sorry to hear that Trott has been suffering, although I wish the cricket authorities could bring themselves to use a better word than "stress". Presumably some level of depression. I hope he finds comfort and recovery back with his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Not sure what's going to happen here with the side. We really need Cook, KP and Bell to make runs being a senior man down. Is Ballance any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Ballance was good for Yorkshire last season but this is another level entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Agree with Paul, asking someone like Ballance to come in and replace Trott (when healthy and in form) is a massive ask. I'd love to see him come in and score big runs straight away, but in the pressure environment of the Ashes, it seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Yes I suspect they will move Bell to 3, Root 5, and they will bring in Bairstow and then Bresnan for Tremlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Well on the basis that whoever bats at 3 will more than likely be facing a very new ball, I think I would prefer to see Root bat at 3. He has shown a willingness to open so coming in (no doubt) after less than 2 overs won't be a problem for him. Bell has struggled at 3 before and we should think hard before unsettling our classiest batsman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Well on the basis that whoever bats at 3 will more than likely be facing a very new ball, I think I would prefer to see Root bat at 3. He has shown a willingness to open so coming in (no doubt) after less than 2 overs won't be a problem for him. Bell has struggled at 3 before and we should think hard before unsettling our classiest batsman. I'm torn on this, the obvious thing to do is Bell at 3, Root at 5. But as WATF correctly points out, Bell was the only (consistent) batsman in the summer and unsettling what is clearly working for him could be a mistake. Also agree with paul above, ballance is a no no imo, has to be Bairstow. Just not sure about the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Be interesting to see who comes in for England. Bell should be moved up to 3 with Stokes at 6 and Root at 5. However, I think the selectors will play it safe with Root at 3 and Bairstow at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I was interested to read an interview with Stuart Broad the other day where he days that alk the England played had undergone stringent psychological testing to ensure they were mentally fit. Seems to me this is something that should have picked up Trott's issues. It's quite obvious that out the middle of an Ashes Test is not the best place to be if you are not 100% emotionally or mentally. Still, good luck to the bloke. Hope he has a swift and full recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 It's really sad that Trott wont be out there next test, he's one of my favourite bats even though I obviously was hoping he had a poor series over here. Hopefully he has a quick recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) To be fair to Warner, he'd have had no idea as to the state of Trott's mental health. It was a silly comment, and I'm sure he feels bad about it now, given what's come to light. You didn't see the interview that was played on SSN yesterday then. The Aussie press asked him about it and although he admitted he may have overstepped the mark a bit, he didn't apologise and reiterated that Trott had played shit. He comes across as a right bellend. I'm down for a bit of friendly rivalry and ribbing, but the Aussie team really do seem to be pretty classless. Like Clarke and his 'broken f******* arm' comment to Cook. Clearing in the woods. Edited November 26, 2013 by Ginko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 To be fair to Warner, he'd have had no idea as to the state of Trott's mental health. It was a silly comment, and I'm sure he feels bad about it now, given what's come to light. You didn't see the interview that was played on SSN yesterday then. The Aussie press asked him about it and although he admitted he may have overstepped the mark a bit, he didn't apologise and reiterated that Trott had played shit. He comes across as a right bellend. I'm down for a bit of friendly rivalry and ribbing, but the Aussie team really do seem to be pretty classless. Like Clarke and his 'broken f******* arm' comment to Cook. Clearing in the woods. Australian sporting team in classless shocker Warner is a dick, of course, but I don't think he's a particularly malicious one. As for Clarke, he was just unlucky to be picked up on the mic - by all accounts Anderson gives as good as he gets in this department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 To be fair to Warner, he'd have had no idea as to the state of Trott's mental health. It was a silly comment, and I'm sure he feels bad about it now, given what's come to light. You didn't see the interview that was played on SSN yesterday then. The Aussie press asked him about it and although he admitted he may have overstepped the mark a bit, he didn't apologise and reiterated that Trott had played shit. He comes across as a right bellend. I'm down for a bit of friendly rivalry and ribbing, but the Aussie team really do seem to be pretty classless. Like Clarke and his 'broken f******* arm' comment to Cook. Clearing in the woods. I made that statement before Warner had been asked his views. I figured he may have a shred of decency, but it appears not. I've not seen the footage, but if what you say is true, then that's pretty crass. Sledging is part of the game, but I think the issue is keeping it on the pitch. In the heat of the game, it's all well and good, but when you start calling people out in the press, it just reflects very badly on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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