Voinjama Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Benfica came 2nd in every competition they entered last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Benfica came 2nd in every competition they entered last season not true. they were in Champions League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) Oh yeah champions league drop outs. but 2nd in the Portuguese league, Portuguese cup and Europa League. Edited June 30, 2013 by Voinjama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Master Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 The curse of the minute 92. Porto scored their winning goal against Benfica at the 92'. Chelsea scored at the 92'. And the goals at the Europa League final were scored by Torres (#9) and Ivanovic (#2)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted July 6, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2013 Porto also finished third in the Taca da Liga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The_Rev Posted May 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2014 Time for a bump. Because Benfica beat Juventus in the Europa League this week, the Portuguese Primeira Liga overtakes Serie A in the European Coefficient table, pushing Serie A down to fifth place in the overall table. It's not as dramatic a thing as when Germany overtook Italy a couple of years ago, that was a move which cost Serie A a Champions League place and gave it to the Bundesliga and Italy would have to drop two more places to 7th (behind France & Russia) before they lose another Champions League spot but as someone who remembers the 90s when Italian football was so far ahead of all other leagues it was embarrassing it does feel a bit weird to see them down so low these days. Congrats to the Portugeezers though. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Very impressive.. Italian football has fallen and are now paying for their corruption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) On the subject of Portuguese football, Benfica are specialists in losing in Euro finals, I think it is 7. I hope they beat Sevilla. Edited May 2, 2014 by Voinjama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 2, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 2, 2014 Time for a bump. Because Benfica beat Juventus in the Europa League this week, the Portuguese Primeira Liga overtakes Serie A in the European Coefficient table, pushing Serie A down to fifth place in the overall table. It's not as dramatic a thing as when Germany overtook Italy a couple of years ago, that was a move which cost Serie A a Champions League place and gave it to the Bundesliga and Italy would have to drop two more places to 7th (behind France & Russia) before they lose another Champions League spot but as someone who remembers the 90s when Italian football was so far ahead of all other leagues it was embarrassing it does feel a bit weird to see them down so low these days. Congrats to the Portugeezers though. As a big fan of 90's Italian football it is just staggering to see how it's fallen. It's not just English football that Sky and the PL ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Think Benfica will win this time which will be good for them given how horribly last season ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Italian football killed itself with rampant corruption and general negligence in all areas from grass roots to the stadiums etc. Edited May 2, 2014 by Voinjama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Time for a bump. Because Benfica beat Juventus in the Europa League this week, the Portuguese Primeira Liga overtakes Serie A in the European Coefficient table, pushing Serie A down to fifth place in the overall table. It's not as dramatic a thing as when Germany overtook Italy a couple of years ago, that was a move which cost Serie A a Champions League place and gave it to the Bundesliga and Italy would have to drop two more places to 7th (behind France & Russia) before they lose another Champions League spot but as someone who remembers the 90s when Italian football was so far ahead of all other leagues it was embarrassing it does feel a bit weird to see them down so low these days. Congrats to the Portugeezers though. As a big fan of 90's Italian football it is just staggering to see how it's fallen. It's not just English football that Sky and the PL ruined. Same. I loved Italian football, well still do, it's sad the state it's now in. I think rich owners/CL have ruined football more than Sky though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 3, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 3, 2014 Time for a bump. Because Benfica beat Juventus in the Europa League this week, the Portuguese Primeira Liga overtakes Serie A in the European Coefficient table, pushing Serie A down to fifth place in the overall table. It's not as dramatic a thing as when Germany overtook Italy a couple of years ago, that was a move which cost Serie A a Champions League place and gave it to the Bundesliga and Italy would have to drop two more places to 7th (behind France & Russia) before they lose another Champions League spot but as someone who remembers the 90s when Italian football was so far ahead of all other leagues it was embarrassing it does feel a bit weird to see them down so low these days. Congrats to the Portugeezers though. As a big fan of 90's Italian football it is just staggering to see how it's fallen. It's not just English football that Sky and the PL ruined. Same. I loved Italian football, well still do, it's sad the state it's now in. I think rich owners/CL have ruined football more than Sky though. Sky is what led them to the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Very impressive.. Italian football has fallen and are now paying for their corruption. And general ineptitude. Top flight clubs playing in half-full, crumbling old concrete bowls is a total embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted May 4, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2014 Time for a bump. Because Benfica beat Juventus in the Europa League this week, the Portuguese Primeira Liga overtakes Serie A in the European Coefficient table, pushing Serie A down to fifth place in the overall table. It's not as dramatic a thing as when Germany overtook Italy a couple of years ago, that was a move which cost Serie A a Champions League place and gave it to the Bundesliga and Italy would have to drop two more places to 7th (behind France & Russia) before they lose another Champions League spot but as someone who remembers the 90s when Italian football was so far ahead of all other leagues it was embarrassing it does feel a bit weird to see them down so low these days. Congrats to the Portugeezers though.Italy is down to fifth in the 2010-2015 table, which can still be affected by next season's results.For the 2009-14 table, which affects the 2015-2016 European competitions, though, Italy just hangs on over Portugal.1. Spain: 97.284 (3 teams alive)2. England: 84.7483. Germany: 81.6414. Italy: 66.9385. Portugal: 62.133 (1 team alive)Spain is guaranteed to get 0.284 points from the CL final, will pick up another .001 points if the CL final is decided in 90 minutes, and will get 0.285 points if Sevilla wins in 90 minutes and 0.142 points if the EL final goes to extra time (so Spain could be on 97.568 to 97.854).Portugal will get 0.333 points if Benfica win in 90 and 0.166 points if it goes to extra time. They cannot catch Italy this year.However, Italy's best year was 2009-10 (IIRC, Juventus won the EL that year), which drops out for next year's table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) Italy will struggle to get back to top 3 because their teams, for the most part, really don't care about the Europa League. They often put out their B team with a few exceptions. Obviously their teams doing poorly in the CL over the last few years doesn't help either. Edited May 4, 2014 by kurtsimonw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted May 4, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2014 The roots of this are the match-fixing scandal a few years back, which meant clubs that were EL-level (Fiorentina, for example) were in the CL and out of their depth and clubs that couldn't compete in the EL (especially considering how uneven the revenue distribution was in Serie A) were getting in. Of course Juventus benefitted from this in the end: by being (along with AC Milan) one of two clubs in the CL group stage from Italy, where big-money desks which assumed 4 CL teams had been negotiated, they got about 10m more euro from UEFA than did Bayern (who won the damn thing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 2010 Europa League was Madrid v Fulham, not Juventus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Time for a bump. Because Benfica beat Juventus in the Europa League this week, the Portuguese Primeira Liga overtakes Serie A in the European Coefficient table, pushing Serie A down to fifth place in the overall table. It's not as dramatic a thing as when Germany overtook Italy a couple of years ago, that was a move which cost Serie A a Champions League place and gave it to the Bundesliga and Italy would have to drop two more places to 7th (behind France & Russia) before they lose another Champions League spot but as someone who remembers the 90s when Italian football was so far ahead of all other leagues it was embarrassing it does feel a bit weird to see them down so low these days. Congrats to the Portugeezers though. they have been very consistent in Europa League in last few years. since 2011 they have had Porto, Benfica(twice) and Braga in the final, think Sporting got to semi final in 2012 as well. in 2011 they had 3 teams in the semi finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Time for a bump. Because Benfica beat Juventus in the Europa League this week, the Portuguese Primeira Liga overtakes Serie A in the European Coefficient table, pushing Serie A down to fifth place in the overall table. It's not as dramatic a thing as when Germany overtook Italy a couple of years ago, that was a move which cost Serie A a Champions League place and gave it to the Bundesliga and Italy would have to drop two more places to 7th (behind France & Russia) before they lose another Champions League spot but as someone who remembers the 90s when Italian football was so far ahead of all other leagues it was embarrassing it does feel a bit weird to see them down so low these days. Congrats to the Portugeezers though. However, Italy's best year was 2009-10 (IIRC, Juventus won the EL that year), which drops out for next year's table. Inter won the CL that year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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