paddy Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Well if we sign Baros, who's to say if we will or not, would that make you happy with our summer spending? We'd have signed 2 strikers, 1 midfielder, 1 defender and 1 keeper and lost 1 striker (first team that is) and one midfielder unless I'm missing someone. Our net summer spending would be roughly 6.25m I reckon. That's not the "significant funds" we were promised, but it is more than a lot of clubs. Personally I still wouldn't be satisfied, but more satisfied than I am at the moment I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablopicasso Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 IF he comes, then we will still have been lied to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allstar Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Think one or two options are missing. I wouldn't think we were finished, even if we didn't get Baros. Still think a central defender is on his way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted August 2, 2005 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2005 We need Baros (or another quality striker) and 1 other - preferrably a Central defender. If so then yes - it's been a good summer. However, "I voted it could have been worse". After all, IF we sign Baros (which is the premise of this poll) then DOL would have spent more this summer than any other summer while he has been in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrogers Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 NO NO NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddybloke Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 baros would be a great, ambitous signing and a happy replacement for vassell. But we've still been lied to if we dont sign more players ontop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 these 3 options are not mutually exclusive. In fact, i can see myself ticking all 3 boxes (if that were possible). so, IMO: 1) they (DOL/The board) have still lied to us re significant spending and previously unobtainable targets 2) It could be worse - a lot worse. IF we were to sign Baros, that would mean a net outlay of around 6 million or so this summer - which is above our usual spend - on player transfers 3) I don't expect any more from the current regime - so would be relatively "happy" with this. The only thing that really bites me is the sale of Dazz Vass. For £2m, at his age and with his ability, I think is folly. We shall see i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 They promised us four quality players. So far we have sold one quality player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishmangiant Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I don't know if we've been lied to, but I'm not very happy nonetheless so I couldn't choose an option. I think we've signed two decent (Berger and Taylor) players and two quality players(Phillips and Hughes). Still, I think we need at least another three signings to have a real chance of making top six. I'm in two minds about Darius' move as I don't think Darius was of real quality, but I do think if we have let him go and don't replace him, then there was no point in his sale. He was a great sprinter and challenger but wasn't a natural footballer and I think he'll struggle next season with Man Shitty. He gave us something different but now we don't have that and worse, we haven't anyone else. To be fair DOL has cashed in so that he can use the money as he knows he is working with very little but he needs to make the signing of Baros or another good finishing striker plus another two defensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eston21 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 wheres teh option 'yes, but they still lied to us' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villafan306 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I went for it could be worse: The way it could be worse is if we don't sign Baros and go into the season with just 2 senior strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahamaad Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 No they still lied to us. Enough money for 3 or 4 quality players does not mean 4 cheap ones and one good signing making the net spend 6 or so million. Woooohooooo! Doug forked out an extra 2 million because he came through the heart op ok! A leopard never changes his spots and our board and HDE are no different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 No they are still a bunch of liars, simple. To make me happy and to do what is right for the club we needed 4 squad players & at least "3" 5Million quality players to replace those who have left and to move us forward. What Elies does not seem to grasp is that unless you win silverware in my eyes that is classed as failure, we are not in it to make up the numbers (Elies makes up the numbers every day). As far as I know a team, no mattter what sport should think that thay can win something at the start of the season all this aiming for 6 th does my F***cking head in. 6th fits good into the budget thats all, if the prem league had 50 teams in it we would aim for 20th. That's whats changed over the years, more happy to survive. We lose to the scum every year & never beat any of the top teams, this is the realisation of the Elies dream. He is a liar & enjoys it when other toe the line and lie with him. rant over....soz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I will not be "happy" until ownership of the club is removed from Ellis and his supporters, simple. I am probably in a small minority in my thinking, but there is nothing Ellis could do, IMO, to gain my respect or trust (not that he gives a toss, or that my respect or trust counts for anything). IMO Villa needs a rebirth, a new start, to creat the right conditions for going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Could argue that Phillips,Taylor & perhaps Baros are quality players. Just cause they dont cost shit loads doesnt mean there not quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Quality IMO = Rooney, Parker, for e.g, a long term investment that will re-coup some of the money spent over the next 5 years in the CL because he is surrounded by other quality players of equal if not higher ability & has years left of playing and desire to win. Phillips would be quality if we signed him 5 years ago but we all know when his legs go he will be replaced with another 32 yr old for peanuts. The transfer market is about right at the moment price wise & we get what we pay for. Net 250 k, says it all. So what if we get Baros, when January comes and the injuries stack up in defence how is he going to help us ? Unless the liars can produce 40 M to let us compete with the top teams then they are failures & will be until we can beat Chelski, manure & arsnail week in week out. This is Aston Villa FC not small heath & until we are the top side in Europe again no matter how unrealistic I wont be happy. Sound unrealistic ? Well this is the point Elies started from in 1983!!!!!!!!! Rant really over now ;-) soz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy Posted August 2, 2005 Author Share Posted August 2, 2005 I agree with a lot of what you said there mate but this I just can't understand... Quality IMO = Rooney, Parker Would you really put Parker in the same bracket as Rooney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Well if the manager was on TV he could easily describe either as a quality signing that will impact the team long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 If Baros signs, and a new defender i'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I wouldn't be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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